baileys lo cal

Sorry I don't mean to be rude but I have used it and it was one of the most expensive, useless feeds I have ever used. It came with a cup and the woman in baileys told us to feed a cup of it and cup of another baileys feed twice a day. The pony was on it for 80 days and turned into skin and bone and went completely down hill. This pony is laminitic and cannot be fed feeds with high sugar content. She is also 18 so needs food that can give her plenty of energy. She is now fed on bluegrass re-leve, dengie alfa-oils and speedi beet. She looks fantastic! Is jumping unbelievable well and has plenty of energy, but not hyper, just lots of energy. Hope this helps!
 
It sounds like you weren't feeding it in the way it is intended! Lo Cal is designed for good doers, the idea is that it provides vitamins, minerals and protein with as few calories as possible, so that you can be sure that good doers can get their vital nutrients without getting fat!

It is not designed as a weight-gain source for poor doers, which it sounds like your mare is (laminitic does not automatically equal a good doer).

Having said that, a lot of good doers seem to survive fine without any form of balancer - I know mine does!
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Another option is to feed a broad spectrum vit/min supplement such as Equivite or Benevit instead of the Lo Cal. It doesn't provide the same levels of protein as Lo Cal, but if your horse or pony is out 24/7 on good grazing then it shouldn't need extra protein anyway.
 
Mine boy is on it purely so I can feed his calmer with it. He is a very good doer, he lives on fresh air.
 
oh, it says on website that is good for good doers but also as a balancer fed at a higher rate for topline without heating????? its all very confusing!!
 
The protein levels are meant to help build muscle and create topline, but if your horse needs more calories to gain weight then you will need to provide these from another source - for example something like Alfa A Oil and Speedibeet, for example.
 
it seems to have better quality protein in it and i would like to maintain his weight and feed the right type of protein so to build his topline?? he is currently on equillibra 500 which is ok but dont feed at top rate as he gets a little hot on it????????????????????????????
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Yes I feed it all year. Mine is a 16.2hh ISH and he gets 3 mugs a day plus a mug of outshine all year round. He lives out 24/7 and only gets hay plus some beet and chaff in winter as extra. He looks brilliant on this - has much more topline than when I got him. A bag costs £25 and lasts a month. He's in the bottom right pic and that was taken in early spring - perfect weight and very shiny!!

I've always fed Lo-cal. My last Horse had very poor feet and feeding him this (no other supplements) improved them enormously. It's never heated up any of mine.
 
I really rate lo-cal. My lammi prone pony is fed it along with a hi-fibre diet for weight gain, she's really fizzy and this didn't make her worse. Have also used it on several good-doers in the past with great success.
 
I've just started Sunny on it. He's a veteran, a good doer and only in light work. He's come out of last winter lacking his usual sparkle and glowing coat. Because he's 23, I decided to try a good quality supplement and researched Lo Cal carefully. On top of all the usual ingredients you'd expect to find, it also contains Yea Sac which helps the horse get the maximum nutrition from it's food by aiding hind gut digestion. It's also got pre (or pro - can never remember!) biotics, which also aid digestion. I've used Blue Chip original before but it's high in calories. Lo Cal is pretty much exactly what I was looking for to bring back the sparkling condition of a ned who is getting to need a bit of help. In 3 months time, I'll let you know if it did what it promised!
 
For all those who use lo cal - I was told that the stud balancer is essentially the same product and very often cheaper. (only be a few £s but it all helps) If you speak to a Baileys nutritonist them I am sure they would be able to advise on this matter.
 
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For all those who use lo cal - I was told that the stud balancer is essentially the same product and very often cheaper. (only be a few £s but it all helps) If you speak to a Baileys nutritonist them I am sure they would be able to advise on this matter.

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The stud balancer is much higher in protein, and lower in fibre - here is the analysis and ingredients of the two products:

Bailey's Lo Cal

PROTEIN 16%
FIBRE 12%
OIL 4.5%
ASH 15%

INGREDIENTSGrass Meal, Distillers’ Grains, Wheatfeed, Micronised Soya, Dicalcium Phosphate, Molasses, Calcium Carbonate, Vitamins and Minerals,Sodium Chloride,Yea-Sacc1026 yeast culture, Lysine, DL-Methionine

Bailey's Stud Balancer
PROTEIN 32%
OIL 5.5%
FIBRE 5%
ASH 15%
LYSINE 2.2%
CALCIUM 3%
PHOSPHORUS 1.5%

INGREDIENTSSoya Bean Meal, Micronised Soya, Distillers' Grains, Micronised Wheat, Dicalcium Carbonate, Calcium Carbonate, Linseed, Whey, Molasses, Grassmeal, L-lysine, DL-Methionine, Vitamins and Minerals, Sodium Chloride, Yea Sacc1026 yeast culture, Digest Plus prebiotic, Calcined Magnesite.
 
Blimey TGM - that's fabulous information! When I read that Lo Cal was the same as stud cubes I had to start breathing into a paper bag!!!!!!!!!!!! The last thing on this planet that Sunny needs is stud cubes! I like him as his normal sweet, safe, lazy self. Don't want a lean mean hunting machine! Thanks again x
 
I've fed lo cal for years and I do rate it. The only reason I've stopped using it is that the horse needs something with a bit more in it now he's doing harder work. But for a resting or low level working horse its brilliant stuff.
 
I've fed my good doer on it for 2 years now and I really rate it. He is in fab condition. I always struggled with feeding as essentially he puts on weight as soon as he looks at a feed bucket but as he does a reasonable amount of work I am always concerned that he gets everything he needs. I feed it with hifi lite plus superflex and msm, and he is so shinny, great feet, fab topline, lovely amount of muscle and bags of energy without being fizzy. Highly recommend for chunkies!
 
I rate Lo-cal also, i have a good doer in Medium work atm & he's fed the full rate of Lo-cal & not much else other than grass & Haylage. He is really looking the picture of health, very shinny & building good topline.
He never goes silly on it either. He was a loon on Topspec however.
 
I've fed my 19yo good doer PBA on it for years, mainly as a vehicle for his supplements. He does extremely well on it, doesn't get silly, and looks great.
 
I fed it to my heavyweight cob and it made him behave like a toddler on e- numbers. (Might just have been coincidence, but nothing else changed at that time)I definately found it heating!!!
 
I've fed Ralph on it for years alongside dengi hifi light. Ralphs prone to weight gain and this feed has kept him on the straigh and narrow. He's a 16.2hh hunter type and looks fantastic (if I say so myself).

It doesn't make them fizzy at all, infact, I fed it to my nutty Welsh D and he settled on it, he went loopy on nuts or mix. I swear by it
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I agree with everyone in that my boy always looked in fab condition when he was on lo cal, but I did find it heating. He went from a mild mannered lazy welshies to a hyped up over excitable idiot. I now feed Top spec anti lami and think suits us better.
 
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