Baileys no. 14, low cal balancer

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Thinking of feeding my 19 yr old mare this balancer.
She is NF and is on rough grazing through the winter but on restricted grazing in the summer as she is prone to laminitis, she is a good do-er, i dont want to feed her huge buckets of feed, she doesnt need it, but i think she may be at the age she needs a little more help in winter!
Can any body recommend this or maybe something else?
Thank you!
 
Yule Mule said:
Have fed it to a TB before, and currently to a welsh section a. Personally I've found it to be good for those who don't need a huge feed, but could do with a bit extra.
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Thank you, :) did you feed it straight for the section A or with a chaff or something?
 
I like the idea, but i think baileys feeds are overpriced and haven't touched them since the rep that came to my yard gave such terrible advice. Had my sister put her native pony on what she suggested, she'd be on her back with lami, and my youngster would've been pts with OCD.
The only product i've ever used is their stud cubes.

I'd get a decent general purpose supplement and a bag of chaff.
 
Toast said:
I like the idea, but i think baileys feeds are overpriced and haven't touched them since the rep that came to my yard gave such terrible advice. Had my sister put her native pony on what she suggested, she'd be on her back with lami, and my youngster would've been pts with OCD.
The only product i've ever used is their stud cubes.

I'd get a decent general purpose supplement and a bag of chaff.
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Its £20 a bag, not to bad for a supplement as should last a while!
I quite like baileys feeds, but dont feed much hard food these days!
What general purpose supplement would you suggest?
 
Im using it on my NF who came to me obese and has been on a strict diet and restricted grazing. however he got really grumpy, had a dull coat and just seemed utterly miserable. i have started feeding him high fibre horse hage morning and night and a cup of balancer with a bit of chaff. he's much happier, looks healthier and got a shine in his coat and is still steadily losing weight. he has gone from 420kg to 372kg since august, want to get him to 360 ideally but without losing condition and so far so good!

It is pricey but it will last me a few months luckily!
 
I use it for my welsh D. He just gets one mug a day, with a scoop of hi fi lite and some speedibeet - plus hay. He only gets fed in winter when the temp drops and I've always been happy with it. I wondered about looking for something cheaper but as its only a mug a day, it lasts for a while so I'm sticking with it.
 
Toast said:
If it'll last you ages then its probably worth using.. cant get it for £20 round here though, nearer £30.
I think im mainly just being anal because i cant stand the baileys lady!
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How much training in nutrition do these people get? Or is it more the case of how much money they get paid for selling the product?/ ;)
 
I used it on my 5 year old good doer over the summer and swapped to the performance balancer over the winter.
Very impressed, he has never looked better. Particularly impressed with the performance balancer as helped with muscle gain and coat and joint health in my 19year old tb.
 
I used to feed my loan horse on Top Spec Lite - it is a low calory balancer, much like Lo Cal. I was advised by an independent nutritionalist that it was a "more balanced" balancer! I must admit that it suited her really well - saw biggest improvements in her feet and coat - she looked really well, didn't drop an ounce come winter and had plenty of energy.
She was also a good do-er so needed restricted feeding especially in summer - would definitely recommend a balancer (whichever one you might choose!) as you can feed minimum but still know they are getting all they need.
I fed with chaff in winter and speedi-beet (95% sugar free therefore also lami safe and non heating - good for fibre/bulk) and literally a handful of chaff in summer as a token gesture. Although the chaff wasn't really needed as it is highly palatable - i think it's a human thing to want to make it look more appealing!!
I fed her 2 cups a day (measuring cups are free from feed merchant) - she was approx 500kg (15.3 wb/tb) and a bag lasted about 5 weeks - it costs about the same as the Lo-Cal
Anyway, another one to consider! hope it goes well whatever you decide!
 
It's the only thing I feed my porkies (well, plus hay of course), just in the winter, and they all look and feel great. The "porkies" are actually horses, to be clear.....
 
I was using this for my tubby cob but since he also does not wear shoes I've changed it to 'Horse and pony direct' low cal balancer as its one of the few that does not contain whole-cereal or molasses. It's also 25% more concentrated so you feed less so a 15kg bag is equal to 20kg of another make. As it costs the same once you add postage (£20?) it works out cheaper.
 
Yes, have used it for years on all horses all year round (currently TB & ISH). They get a cup a day with a handful of chaff in the evenings. Plus ad lib hay at night and grass during the day or hay if grass frozen.

As they are mainly fed forage, it keeps me reassured that they are getting all vitamins/minerals, they love it and look/feel really good on it.

A bag lasts me 2 months with 2 horses so cheap as chips.
 
Saf was munching No 14 over the summer, and looked like this:

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I was pretty satisfied :) She had a cup of it a day (on it's own). The only reason I've changed is for more of a barefoot diet, but I can't recommend No 14 enough really!
 
All the Baileys reps have a degree.

I have all mine on the Lo-Cal Balancer, which includes five Arabs ,ages one of 6 yrs , two of 16 yrs , one of 18 yrs and a 22yr old that this year has competed in a number of endurance rides of over 60 miles and also won the vintage class at he Arab Marathon. They all look well and are fit and healthy. They are all on a double handful of Alfa Oil and a measure of the Lo-Cal morning and evening.

I also have a little New Forest Mare that has just been diagnosed with Cushings. She has the same as above but just half a measure of the Lo-Cal twice a day.

The Alfa Oil is safe for Laminetic animals as it is low in sugar and has no added malases.

In this very cold weather I have been adding Speedi Beet.

They also have ad lib hay.

I have in the past used Top Spec but found I had a problem with it. The only time I have had a horse with Mud Fever was when I used Top Spec.
 
I've only ever heard good things about Spillers Lite. It's cheaper and the feeding rates are the same. I've looked extensively into which balancer is best value for money (it's how I get my horsey fix!) and I've never heard anything bad about it. It seems to get exactly the same reviews as Baileys, with the added bonus that you're saving pennies:D
 
HeavyHorseHugger said:
I prefer Spillers lite, the horses like it, look good on it and its only £19.99 a bag :D
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I do too in the summer and our feed merchant stocks this for £15 then in the winter I go onto spillers original again very reasonable at £23. I have tried the Baileys but to be honest the horse prefers and looks IMO better on the Spillers, plus the lo cal smells lovely. 2 mugs a day mixed with some Spillers conditioning fibre keeps my stress head calm (well as he ever will be) and contented. Plus do not need to feed probiotic as seems to suit his delicate tum. Ad lib hay too in winter and daily turn out (weather permitting).
 
After spending a whole day at work researching how much " goodness " is in these balancers, I wouldn't bother they are very very low. Far better of the shelf supplements such as equimins advance complete which has such good levels it really puts the balancers to shame.
Out of the balancers topspec is the best, the rest are a rip off
 
As above - I wouldnt waste my money!

Baileys no. 14 Ingredients (red highlights not suitable for lami's/ good doers)


Grassmeal, Distillers’ Grains, Wheatfeed, Micronised Soya Beans, Dicalcium Phosphate, Molasses, Calcium Carbonate, Vitamins and Minerals, Sodium Chloride, Calcined Magnesite,

PROTEIN 16%
FIBRE 12%
OIL 4.5%
ASH 15%
CALCIUM 3%
PHOSPHOROUS 1.5%
MAGNESIUM 0.6%
POTASSIUM 1%
COPPER 225 mg/kg
IODINE 3.5mg/kg
IRON 600 mg/kg
SELENIUM 1.7 mg/kg
ZINC 450 mg/kg
MANGANESE 240 mg/kg
BIOTIN 15 mg/kg
VITAMIN A 44,000 IU/kg
VITAMIN D3 4,400 IU/kg
VITAMIN E 800 IU/kg

Look at the levels of magnesium/copper/zinc in comparison to Pro Hoof ..... massive difference!
 
Pro hoof is very good but don't think it's cheap, sold on e bay so go and look at the contents and compair to your feed and you will see that your not putting a lot of goodness into them.
I use advance complete from equimins as it's very good levels as well and I get it cheap through work that's the only reason why I'm not on pro hoof.
Good feet comes with a good balanced diet with copper/zinc being important.
Honestly go and compair you may be shocks like I was.
 
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