Muddywellies
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This balancer has been recommended to me by a nutritionist. Looking for reviews please.
Baileys No19 Performance Balancer
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outinthefens88
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I have used it for several years for my Suffolk Punch x Welsh competing up to fourty mile Endurance rides - what exactly do you want to know?
Muddywellies
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Just general reviews. Weight gain, fizziness, palatability etc etc
shortstuff99
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Makes mine fat and mental
outinthefens88
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Weight gain, can't really comment as I feel alongside old fashioned straights such as oats and linseed but he is in what many would judge HARD work - we do a lot more than hacking around in walk for 20 minutes and he lives out 24/7/365.
Not found it makes him particularly fizzy, even at 'full rate' of 2 to 2.5 mugs a day.
Palatability - he will eat practically anything that's put in his food bucket.
Not sure what help any of the above is!
Not found it makes him particularly fizzy, even at 'full rate' of 2 to 2.5 mugs a day.
Palatability - he will eat practically anything that's put in his food bucket.
Not sure what help any of the above is!
Muddywellies
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Yes Ive seen a few people say that, which is making me nervous. My horse goes loopy on alfalfa and I told the nutritionist this but she said it only contains a small about and my horse would be fine. So I'm really unsure about trying it.
outinthefens88
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I feed alfalfa chop - thankfully he doesn't have a sensitivity to it.
Muddywellies
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Thank you. Mine is in medium work I would say. Fairly sedate hacking, with two or three quite intense schooling sessions a week.
SEL
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I've got my cob on it. Ridden 5 times a week mix of schooling & hacking (light to medium) & he does well on it.
tda
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The main ingredient of this product is soya bean meal, the second ingredient is alfalfa, so yes, you are only feeding a couple of hundred grams of alfalfa per day, but if your horse is sensitive to alfalfa I'd probably look at a balancer with out it
Tiddlypom
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If your horse goes loopy on alfalfa then feeding a balancer containing alfalfa is not a great idea. How daft of the nutritionist to play down your concerns.
I once accidentally gave the IDx half a cupful of alfalfa pellets meant for another horse. I realised before I gave her the feed, but reckoned how much could that affect a 650kg steady natured horse as a one off.
It took over 48 hours to bring her down from the ceiling, she was WILD
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Also not a fan of soya anyway, so I’d look elswhere.
I once accidentally gave the IDx half a cupful of alfalfa pellets meant for another horse. I realised before I gave her the feed, but reckoned how much could that affect a 650kg steady natured horse as a one off.
It took over 48 hours to bring her down from the ceiling, she was WILD
.Also not a fan of soya anyway, so I’d look elswhere.
little_critter
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When I had an independent nutritionist out she said she rates the Spillers balancers as having a good balance of vits & mins.
Looking at the daily balancer (which I feed) it doesn’t contain alfalfa.
Looking at the daily balancer (which I feed) it doesn’t contain alfalfa.
View
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I’m prepared to be shot down in flames, but to me this is light work (unless your schooling sessions are over 60 minutes).
Muddywellies
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hottoddy
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The Baileys stud balancer is almost exactly the same and a lot cheaper!
View
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Ah, more context. Light work some days, medium work others.OK light work then. She's training at adv med
Apologies for my wrong assumption.
scats
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It sends mine loopy. I didn’t put two and two together for a while, then I took her off it and tried again a few months later. She gets stupidly spooky. All baileys products seem to do it to her, even their lo cal balancer. No idea why.
Roxylola
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Bon got silly on it, but is fine on releve (soya) and alfabeet (among other things) it's pretty high in available energy and protein though so I think it was just a bit much for him.
Charlie does great on - although I try to avoid Alfa with his mallanders but it's his bucket feed and works very well for him
Both in similar levels of work, 60+ minute hacks - hill work, canter work, schooling to novice, jumping 80 courses
I will say I knew in less than a week with Bon and I think Baileys will send you a sample if you email and ask
Charlie does great on - although I try to avoid Alfa with his mallanders but it's his bucket feed and works very well for him
Both in similar levels of work, 60+ minute hacks - hill work, canter work, schooling to novice, jumping 80 courses
I will say I knew in less than a week with Bon and I think Baileys will send you a sample if you email and ask
Muddywellies
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OK. I've decided I won't take the advice of the nutritionist and won't be feeding this. I'm certain with the alfalfa content, that it will make her unmanageable. Thank you all ever so much for your responses 
Fieldlife
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That’s not necessarily true horse’s working medium upwards can be working pretty intensively in school but not working over an hour.
Roasted Chestnuts
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My Welsh d was neither up nor down whilst on it. I took him off it as I wasn’t doing the work to warrant it and put him back on the Lo cal version. It did give him more energy than the lo cal version I have noticed. He may go back on it next year as his workload will go up significantly with him Turning 7 and I’ll be expecting to do more common ridings and more work in general.
SEL
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If you can pop a powder balancer into food then you've got options without alfalfa.OK. I've decided I won't take the advice of the nutritionist and won't be feeding this. I'm certain with the alfalfa content, that it will make her unmanageable. Thank you all ever so much for your responses
Muddywellies
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Tbh she's already on a decent one from Saracen, along with a very well researched diet of high quality feed that was formulated with a great deal of input from my vet. But the recent visit from a nutritionist told me she's not getting all the nutrients she needs. Now I'm thinking it was a sales pitch.
First Frost
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I've fed it to my connie and connieXTB for years. The connie evented to BE100 (he just hacks now at the age of 21) and the TBX dressages to medium and show jumps. They just have the balancer and speedibeet plus forage.
I have never had any problems with fizziness and they both look fabulous.
I have never had any problems with fizziness and they both look fabulous.
southerncomfort
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I had a sample pack from them.
Fed it to him once and he was practically orbiting the moon he was that wired. The rest went in the bin.
I've stuck to the Lo Cal, but realised I wasn't giving full rations. He's perked up since feeding the correct amount, and the shine on him is phenomenal!
Fed it to him once and he was practically orbiting the moon he was that wired. The rest went in the bin.
I've stuck to the Lo Cal, but realised I wasn't giving full rations. He's perked up since feeding the correct amount, and the shine on him is phenomenal!
ecb89
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I feed their lite and lean and my ID looks really good on it. Baileys lo cal sent him crazy.
Ceifer
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Who schools over an hour ? Even with a decent warm up / cool down doing over an hour would be pushing things.
Roasted Chestnuts
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TBF I’ve schooled for an hour
taking things slowly and working up to what I want done. I’ve had pole clinics and grid work for over an hour and that t me is schooling I think it depends on the definition of schooling but I wouldn’t say anything less than that is light work.Light work to me is the odd up to 1hr hack a few times a week with a couple of 30mins in the school. Medium is 3/4 hacks an hour plus a week and 2/3 45min stints in the arena anything involving more than that and long sessions of canter/gallop to me is hard work but many wouldn’t think that
I would say Faran is in medium work as he gets 4/5 1-2hrs hacks a week some involving long canters and schooled in the field for at least an hour once a week in walk trot and canter with some lateral work, but to some that would be light and to some that would be hard.It’s a very subjective topic I think
rara007
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Hard work to me is doing tourist rides at pyramids then evening show jumping 1m 20+ then coming over to the Uk to event on the weekend off. Tbh unless they’re schooling PSG are they even schooling. No one really works horses these days…..!