Baileys OUTSHINE, feedback please

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Ok Guys,
I have always had my lad on Top Spec Comprehensive balancer and said i would never change!!

So now i find myself with a sack of OUTSHINE in my feed room
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I have left all the rest of his feed the same........
Cool and condition cubes
Top chop alpha
Speedi Beet
Hayledge

Thought i'd give it a bash for condition but wondered what others views were on it as a feed. Bit late to ask now as i have a sack now but opinions please
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Thanks in advance x
 
It gave my mare a very shiny coat but other than that it just made her completely loopy!!! so i had to cut it out...........
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GREAT for coat shine, good for condition in larger amounts but it does a totally different job than TopSpec so it depends on whether you are after a balancer or a conditioning/stamina giving feed.
 
Oh buggar sounds like i made a bad decision then
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best get my sticky bum jods on for the next few week s then
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He's already full of the joys, why oh why did i do it
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just wanted something more conditioning and it seemed like a good idea at the time.
In future i'll stick to my motto...... If it ain't broke don't fix it
 
You have to feed a fair bit to add condition and if that's the only reason you have bought it then it is a very expensive option. The other thing to consider is it's digestibility as it is (obviously) a 'fatty' feed which doesn't suit all in high quantities. I wouldn't cut out the TopSpec if you feel your horse needs a balancer because Outshine isn't a balancer at all.
 
Its not bad - does what it says on the tin however I could recommend better, and more effective, weight gaining products. Bailey's as a whole are brilliant.
 
TopSpec is a balancer, Outshine is an oil supplement. You need to add the TopSpec back in or you'll be missing out on essential micronutrients. Mine is on TopSpec and Outshine. I'm nearly at the end of the Outshine and wondering whether to continue with it though. It gives him a lovely shiny coat, it has a huge DE of 25 so should be very conditioning but you do need to feed about half a kilo a day to get that kind of result. I'm wondering if there's anything else I could change to that would do the same job and mean feeding less of it (and preferable costing less too!)
 
Thanks for that Star, i was kind of doing a mate a favour as it was in her shop and short dated so got it at cost, thought it might be worth a bash. Ok so will get the Comprehensive back in his diet and then cut my losses i guess.

Does it make yours crackers??
 
I feed outshine for stamina. If I want condition I give extra feeds with the conditioning cubes.

The best thing you could do is ring Baileys and ask them how much they would advise you to feed.

With some horses I only feed 1 cup a day. With others I have gone up to 6 cups depending on their requirements.
 
Baileys No.4 or Winergy Equilibrium Condition for condition - ok they are both feeds rather than a supplement, so you would have to feed more than you do of the Outshine but it's a cheaper and IMO more effective way of doing it. The other option is simply to add oil to your feed which is MUCH cheaper than feeding Outshine but there are downsides to this(you may need to add a VitE supplement) and it needs to be added gradually over a period of time especially if you are feeding a large amount for condition, you would still get the great coat shine too though. I have had long conversatoins with Baileys about this and they readily agree that feeding oil in liquid form is just as good as feeding Outshine - just messier!
 
I have had 3 horses on it in the past - all very different - and it didn't make any of them loopy. I took them off it because as a conditioning feed it's extortionate, and as I feed a balancer and still needed that it was all too expensive.
 
Its absolutely brilliant stuff. I use it for stamina when eventing and it has the side effect of my horse looking incredibly shiney! I have a horse who will run on adrenelin and this has completely solved the problem of "running on empty" when he just keeps going regardless. Oil on its own had no benefit at all to my horse.

The outshine has the benefit of having been proceesssed and has added anti-oxidants to deal with the free radical issue that feeding oil to horses gives.
I feed half a cup a day throughout the winter just so as to keep it in his diet all year, he is incredibly sensitive and can assure you if it sent them loopy i would be dead (last time i changed his feed i ended up in hospital twice in a week. This was on a low starch/high fibre fcomplete feed). He is now fed top spec and high fibre cubes with unmollassed beet and he events of that no problem.
 
well I added Outshine to TopSpec Comp and speedibeet and I was really pleased with the results. I was struggling to keep weight on my boy and this really did work and he stayed sane. I only used 2 sacks over this worst part of winter last year because of the price but I do rate it.

Am trying Falcons Omega Rice this year (only because its £10 cheaper and you feed less) am hoping that it will have the same results.
 
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Thanks for that Star, i was kind of doing a mate a favour as it was in her shop and short dated so got it at cost, thought it might be worth a bash. Ok so will get the Comprehensive back in his diet and then cut my losses i guess.

Does it make yours crackers??

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mine is crackers already! but he is no more crackers from being on outshine. he gets alfa-a oil, alfalfa pellets, unmollassed sugar beet, topspec balancer, topspec cool condition cubes and outshine. he also gets topspec super conditioning flakes during winter while he's hunting for condition. i try and steer clear of normal mixes and cubes as they've got too much starch in them and blow his brains.
 
My old share horse was fed it and she looked super, great for condition, she was quite a hot sharp horse but it didn't make her loopy at all. I would use it again if needed
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I decided to feed it to Woody as he's a very large poor doer with laminitis, arthritis, navicular and COPD
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He immediately (within a few days) gained condition and seemed happier in himself. I don't think that it sent him loopy - he's always been a bit on the hyper side and doesn't like standing still at gateways etc but I don't think it made him worse.

I found that it gave Woody a massive boost and was much less messy than feeding veggie oil etc.
 
Crikey, mixed feelings on this one then lol

Will give it a go, get another bag of my balancer and see what happens
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If you don't hear from me again he has gone nuts and killed me
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Think in future though i will just up the condition cubes
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