Bakers dog food

MyLuckyStar said:
I used to feed my dog Bakers but read something online that it was full of bad stuff, same as Pedigree to. My dog now has wagg dry food and the occasional tin of wet food (which she isn't keen on), she also has sardines, mince and chicken
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Bakers
Wagg
Pedigree
Chappie (dry)

All contain carcinogens (cancer causing). Don't finish the bag, bin it. :(

Good quality kibble actually costs about the same as all those rubbish ones as you need to feed less. Look on this link for good dry food with price, quality etc.:
http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-health-nutrition/255727-updated-dry-dog-food-index.html

Here's the wet food index, too:
http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-health-nutrition/194976-wet-dog-food-index.html
 
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Mine is currently on skinners, however she'll be on raw when we've finished the bag. I liked the quality of skinners food but their marketing advisor who i emailed for advice told me that 'domestic dogs are not true carnivores, unlike cats' I dont believe they should be telling their customers this and i don't want to support a company who believe this either.

Though, perhaps we need a sticky with the link to the dry dog food traffic light thread.
 
Actually that is correct - cats cannot survive without meat and need specific parts of an animal even in the fairly short term.

Dogs can survive on a veggie diet - not thrive but survive, there is a big difference - but do not need a 100% meat diet.

I had an Arden Grange rep tell me they used no offal in any of their foods. He had no answer for where the taurine in their cat food came from.
I had another rep tell me that everything in their foods was for the animal's benefit. Couldn't tell me what benefit the 10% beet was to the animal (it was to enable it to be extruded).

Now if a rep told me that this ingredient list was good I would be looking elsewhere:
Cereals, Meat and animal derivatives (15%1 in the chunk, 4%2 in the brown & natural kernels), Vegetable protein extracts, Derivatives of vegetable origin, Oils and fats, Various sugars, Vegetables (1% dried chicory root (natural ingredient), green & yellow kernels: 0.6 % dried vegetables, equivalent to 4% vegetables), Propylene glycol, Minerals.

Raw is good, skinners is good.

The worst case I have experienced nutritionally was the person who fed her GSD liver & only liver! The dog took a lot of recuperating and we got her to feed tinned chappie as it was the safest thing she couldn't **** up feeding. Dog still died young.
 
Crazycob06 said:
I am so glad I read this thread!!!
I am feeding my cocker spaniel bakers weight watcher food and I couldn't understand why he was still piling it on! Stupid me for not actually checking the food out!
He is also having bouts of what we think are stomachs aches. He has a full day of pains every 5 minutes. He has been to the vets and had full bloods done, we had half back yesterday which were all clear and are waiting for the pancreatitis results to come in tomorrow.
I am going to go and buy new food first thing tomorrow!

Any recommendations for a healthy food to help loose the weight?
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Is this a dry food? We had a very similar situation when my dalmatian was young and the vets never could get to the bottom of it. It was only when I realised it only happened after she'd been left with her treat ball (with a mere handful of dry dog food in it) that we realised it was that tiny amount of dry food causing it. Once we cut out any dry food it stopped completely. Putting a handful of the food in warm water and watching it swell will tell you why it happens.

Of course this might not be your problem at all but it is worth considering and I hope your dog feels better soon :)
 
Mc Donalds for dogs....9 times out of 10 at work an owner will seek advice on dog food and tell me the dog is hyperactive, dull coat, excess poo etc and when questioned is feeding Bakers. We normally advise something more sensible along the lines of Burns, JWB or Skinners depending on owner's budget and preference and have positive feedback that once off the Bakers the dog improves, sometimes very dramatically.
 
Thx for those links very interesting ill be shopping around for my dog now, I thought my dry food was ok but I will look into getting a better quality one now!
 
I used to feed my Choc Lab on Bakers when we first got him, hyperactive doesnt come close!! The Vets and our Dog trainer at the time reccommended we change to Chappie and since then he's a much calmer and happier boy esp with the odd left over from a roast chucked in for good measure :-) I was always told to look at the protein figure and make sure its low if your dog isnt a working dog.
 
At the risk of being shot down, yesterday I purchased 2 bags of Costco's Kirkland Signature Adult Dog Formula (Lamb). On TheDogFoodAdvisor, a website rating dog foods in the US, this food receives 4 stars out of a possible 5. It is considered highly recommended after a complete breakdown of its ingredients. The bags are 18.14kg, which is 40 pounds of food, for £23.49 plus VAT. I'm going to mix this food gradually into the remaining Royal Canin I've been feeding my GBGV, and the Symply I've been feeding my JR. The price I've been paying for the Royal Canin and Symply is around £52 for 15kg and 12kg respectively. Simply ridiculous!!

The Kirkland is considered a quality dry dog food (I had no idea Costco carried it in the UK). I'll keep you posted.

If there are those of you who want to switch over to a higher quality dry food without paying over the top, this might be a useful alternative.
 
Depends who's doing the reviewing! This review is quite damning:
http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showproduct.php?product=1031&cat=5

If you google it, there are lots of odd rumours about how it's made dogs unwell. A recent recall happened in America due to people being made unwell by it. Heck of a lot of unnecessary fillers in it. I'd rather buy high quality dry or wet and add my own rice!
 
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cinnamontoast said:
Depends who's doing the reviewing! This review is quite damning:
http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showproduct.php?product=1031&cat=5

If you google it, there are lots of odd rumours about how it's made dogs unwell. A recent recall happened in America due to people being made unwell by it. Heck of a lot of unnecessary fillers in it. I'd rather buy high quality dry or wet and add my own rice!
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I had mentioned, in a previous post in a different thread, that Diamond Pet Foods produces the Kirkland and Taste of the Wild dog foods. There had been a recall of both products because of salmonella sometime ago. When I went to Applaws and Orijen, they, too, had a recall.

The review on TheDogFoodAdvisor was quite extensive and appeared to call a spade a spade. Different strokes...
 
Sorry to hijack the thread a bit but my dog suffers from being sick a lot, the vet has ruled out a problem, on moving him over to Chappie (tins) he has been fine since Christmas but I would like him to have something better quality. The place where I get my chicken food from has just started stocking Forthglade wet dog food, I've never heard of it but the ingredients look ok I think, can anyone recommend this?

Chicken (72%), Brown Rice (4%), Peas (2%), Carrots (2%), Salmon Oil, Seaweed, Minerals, Vitamins, Herbs, Glucosamine, Chondroitin.
 
WelshD said:
Sorry to hijack the thread a bit but my dog suffers from being sick a lot, the vet has ruled out a problem, on moving him over to Chappie (tins) he has been fine since Christmas but I would like him to have something better quality. The place where I get my chicken food from has just started stocking Forthglade wet dog food, I've never heard of it but the ingredients look ok I think, can anyone recommend this?

Chicken (72%), Brown Rice (4%), Peas (2%), Carrots (2%), Salmon Oil, Seaweed, Minerals, Vitamins, Herbs, Glucosamine, Chondroitin.
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Forthglade is excellent.
 
RutlandH2O said:
I had mentioned, in a previous post in a different thread, that Diamond Pet Foods produces the Kirkland and Taste of the Wild dog foods. There had been a recall of both products because of salmonella sometime ago. When I went to Applaws and Orijen, they, too, had a recall.

The review on TheDogFoodAdvisor was quite extensive and appeared to call a spade a spade. Different strokes...
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The reviews are not the be all and end all, but the ingredients are cheap, low quality grains=fillers. I prefer to give a much higher meat content. A vet friend recommended bog standard dried food when I discussed this with him. I was amazed!
 
This is an interesting thread. After trying many different foods over the years, I am feeding my old GSD Eukanuba Dermatosis FP with chopped cooked chicken breast to put the Metacam on. I don't know what you all think of this. Its expensive, but it works. She is gluten intolerant and has food intolerances that result in skin problems, she is arthritic and also has Lupus. Chicken skin or trimmings from beef when cooking give her diarroehia, cannot have biscuits, ok with plain white fish or white rice. Don't really want to change anything as her poo is easy to clean up(see Aged GSD).
 
its also good idea to work out cost per day/meal to compare price as feeding quantities vary so some aren't as reasonable as they appear just going on the bag price. with a cheap kibble my dogs ate twice as much so could afford to switch to one with better ingredients.

my dogs had to have some charcoal recently and was like i'd poured black ink all over their dinner, so coloured kibble really is wasted on them just a way to make it appealing to those holding the £s
 
CSJ is another good company. Have a look at their website. If you contact them, with details of your dog, they will suggest the type most suited for your dog. Excellent service. :)
 
What would be really helpful, would be a list of ingredients to look out for - or the ways that ingredients can be recorded on ingredient list in a way that misleads. Labelling food as hypoallergenic is little help. I found these foods did not produce mucous in faeces but still left her with itchy skin problems (and therefore more steroids).
I'd like to know what things are used as fillers and what they are derived from.
Which preservatives are dangerous, carcinogenic etc. When vegetables are listed, if not named, what are they likely to be?
 
Adina said:
What would be really helpful, would be a list of ingredients to look out for - or the ways that ingredients can be recorded on ingredient list in a way that misleads. Labelling food as hypoallergenic is little help. I found these foods did not produce mucous in faeces but still left her with itchy skin problems (and therefore more steroids).
I'd like to know what things are used as fillers and what they are derived from.
Which preservatives are dangerous, carcinogenic etc. When vegetables are listed, if not named, what are they likely to be?
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The indexes I linked will help and the Which dog food site has more detail. For exact ingredients, you'll probably have to ask the company, but they may be reluctant or even unable to tell you if ingredients such as BHA/BHT have been used in the processing somewhere along the line.
 
Another vote for Skinners Duck and Rice here although I believe the Autarky Adult Salmon and Rice has okay ingredients and can be picked up fairly cheaply online eg Berriewood. I've not tried it as my two use the Skinners for training treats and eat WW trays and Nature Diet as there main meals but might be worth a consideration for anyone wanting okay ingredients in a food that won't break the bank.
 
Autarky salmon keeps being pushed but it has several known allergens in it's formula.
Skinners F&T salmon is ok or jump up to Fish4dogs etc.
 
OH was feeding Bakers to his 2 rescue cairns... totally hyperactive. I fed IAMs puppy to my lurcher pup. Having read previous threads on here we have now moved over to Skinners for all the dogs I am hoping everyone will calm down!
 
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