skinnydipper
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Also, unless it's for health reasons such as undescended testes, then it is best not to neuter a fearful dog or anxious dog. Taking away the testosterone can increase fearfulness and anxiety.
Balls, not the catching variety!
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Also, unless it's for health reasons such as undescended testes, then it is best not to neuter a fearful dog or anxious dog. Taking away the testosterone can increase fearfulness and anxiety.
poiuytrewq
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I did know that actually, it would be one to take into account with him. He is a little bit nervous sometimes in some situations.
FinnishLapphund
There's no cow on the ice
I've heard of a few young male puppies whose balls didn't drop during the colder months of the year, but came when it started to get warmer outdoors. I still vaguely recall hearing about an owner + puppy several years ago, the owner got so happy when the testicles dropped, a few days later Winter started, and the testicles disappeared again.
Sadly it was so long ago, I'm not 100% sure that I remember correctly how it ended, but I think they eventually came back out again by themselves.
In general, at least before the Covid craziness, I've always understood it as that it was a sort of an unofficial rule in most breeds that a male puppy (in Sweden) that doesn't have 2 testicles at the pre sale vet check is sold at a discount, both because in many (/most/all?) breeds it means the dog is not of breeding quality, but also because the breeder can't guarantee that the puppy's testicles will drop, just a bit late, or whether the puppy will stay cryptorchid, and require surgery. Anyhow, before opening this thread, I can only recall having heard that if the testicles haven't dropped when the dog is about 1 year old, then it's time for a vet visit.
Whether to snip them off, or not, if they do drop naturally, who knows, maybe in a few weeks/months time he's matured, maybe he stops being a bit nervous in the situations when he can be nervous now, maybe he starts to try to run away because he suspects that a bitch which lives X miles away might be in season, maybe he will develop overly amorous feelings which makes you start to think that you'd be willing to chop them off yourself if the vet don't have time do it.
Or maybe he continues to sometimes be a bit nervous in some situations, at the same time as not seeing himself as the local dog Casanova, and you might decide that he can keep his balls for the time being.
Sadly it was so long ago, I'm not 100% sure that I remember correctly how it ended, but I think they eventually came back out again by themselves.
In general, at least before the Covid craziness, I've always understood it as that it was a sort of an unofficial rule in most breeds that a male puppy (in Sweden) that doesn't have 2 testicles at the pre sale vet check is sold at a discount, both because in many (/most/all?) breeds it means the dog is not of breeding quality, but also because the breeder can't guarantee that the puppy's testicles will drop, just a bit late, or whether the puppy will stay cryptorchid, and require surgery. Anyhow, before opening this thread, I can only recall having heard that if the testicles haven't dropped when the dog is about 1 year old, then it's time for a vet visit.
Whether to snip them off, or not, if they do drop naturally, who knows, maybe in a few weeks/months time he's matured, maybe he stops being a bit nervous in the situations when he can be nervous now, maybe he starts to try to run away because he suspects that a bitch which lives X miles away might be in season, maybe he will develop overly amorous feelings which makes you start to think that you'd be willing to chop them off yourself if the vet don't have time do it.
Or maybe he continues to sometimes be a bit nervous in some situations, at the same time as not seeing himself as the local dog Casanova, and you might decide that he can keep his balls for the time being.
poiuytrewq
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When I say nervous in some situations, he is fine usually but if, for example a large vehicle
(Tractor size) passes on the road he will try and shoot sideways or back. Obviously I can hear them coming so have been getting off the road into a verge or gateway and just trying to keep his attention/praising for eye contact.
He is fine with tractors at home- even being power washed
Out and about strange things make him spooky. A pushchair, or wheelchair, a bike. Things that suddenly appear.
We live in such a quiet area that most days even road walking round the village we see nothing.
I suspect, subjected to things more, he’d be better.
I do need to make more effort to get in the car and go to a park or walk in busier areas.
(Tractor size) passes on the road he will try and shoot sideways or back. Obviously I can hear them coming so have been getting off the road into a verge or gateway and just trying to keep his attention/praising for eye contact.
He is fine with tractors at home- even being power washed
Out and about strange things make him spooky. A pushchair, or wheelchair, a bike. Things that suddenly appear.
We live in such a quiet area that most days even road walking round the village we see nothing.
I suspect, subjected to things more, he’d be better.
I do need to make more effort to get in the car and go to a park or walk in busier areas.
druid
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If you are being pedantic, a dog shouldn't be a breeding prospect if it doesn't have 2 fully descended testicles by 12 weeks of age.
In reality, plenty will have one or both retained for several months.
I have one Spaniel with an undescended testicle, it's under the skin in his inguinal region but not able to be manipulated into the scrotal sac. The undescended one will come out about 18-24mo of age. He will keep the normal one. He won't be used for breeding.
In reality, plenty will have one or both retained for several months.
I have one Spaniel with an undescended testicle, it's under the skin in his inguinal region but not able to be manipulated into the scrotal sac. The undescended one will come out about 18-24mo of age. He will keep the normal one. He won't be used for breeding.
poiuytrewq
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I’d never consider using one of mine for breeding regardless to be honest.
I think I’d always worry, even though mine are the boys what would happen to any pups produced.
I’d feel responsible for bringing them into the world.
I think I’d always worry, even though mine are the boys what would happen to any pups produced.
I’d feel responsible for bringing them into the world.
druid
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You are responsible, I feel. I've had one pup back from a sire I own when Owner passed away unexpectedly and the breeder/Owner of dam was unable to take him back for health reasons.
poiuytrewq
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So many don’t, it must also be hard to keep in contact. I even worry about where Cecil, my little dogs brother and sister ended up and if they are ok
I have absolutely nothing to do with the breeding of them! I’d be the worlds worst dog breeder
Clodagh
Playing chess with pigeons
Same here. Much as Scout would love to be out there peopling the world.So many don’t, it must also be hard to keep in contact. I even worry about where Cecil, my little dogs brother and sister ended up and if they are ok
I’d be the worlds worst dog breeder
poiuytrewq
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Peopling the world
poiuytrewq
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HE’S GOT NUTS 
Definitely visible when he’s lolling round on his back but pretty much there when he’s stood up too…..
So grown up
skinnydipper
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Definitely visible when he’s lolling round on his back but pretty much there when he’s stood up too…..
So grown up
Now the question is - will he keep them?
poiuytrewq
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Currently yes, as long as there’s no real reason to remove them.
Not for breeding but for health reasons.
FinnishLapphund
There's no cow on the ice
Definitely visible when he’s lolling round on his back but pretty much there when he’s stood up too…..
So grown up
Yay! Do you count them as an early Christmas present? Will you remember this Christmas as the one where you got a pair of testicles?
poiuytrewq
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Absolutely! It’s something different, not the usual gloves or shower gel!
a bigger relief too!