Ban horse slaughter petition.

burness_21 said:
Sorry I won't sign this I really don't agree with banning horse slaughter.
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Paint Myrrh Proud said:
horse slaughter is a necessary side show of over breeding and poor husbandry.
To ban it would cause more harm than good. Sorry :(
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Blitzenfys said:
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No chance.

The sooner they get their sensible hats back on their pink, fluffy, bunny hugging heads and open more facilities the better it will be for horses.
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ps. I get so very angry reading these silly hand on heart petitions that mean well but really do the total opposite, so, OP my comments above aren't actually directed at you.
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That about sums it up for me as well!
 
Foxhunter49 said:
Horse slaughter for the meat entering the human food chain was banned a few years ago in the USA.
What happened? Horses were carted for days often in two tiered lorries, no stops for food or water, several thousand miles to either Canada or Mexico where they went for slaughter anyway.

Thousands of horses were abandoned or just neglected just because there was no way to get rid of them without it costing owners money.

What is needed is not a ban on slaughter but for it to be run on similar lines to the UK.

America might be the most powerful nation in the world but in many, many ways it is extremely backward in its animal welfare and slaughter houses, for all animals, as well as transportation of all animals is one of them.
The fact that the ban has now been reversed is a better thing than is existing at the moment.

I will not be signing.
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Thanks for posting so eloquently.

I'm actually very confused about what the law now is.

Horse slaughter was banned in the US a few years ago - but animals transported across borders for slaughter, as we know. The new law seems to propose that this is no longer permitted (good news, obviously). But are there any proposals to reintroduce equine slaughter houses now?

They have to do something, surely???
 
I am always puzzled by the outcry regarding horses going to slaughter by people who still eat meat. I see no difference between transporting and slaughtering horses and transporting and slaughtering pigs, sheep or cows. Pigs especially are more intelligent than dogs. What hell they must go through. At the end of the day, slaughtering will always go on. The only way you can ease your consience (a little bit) is to give up eating meat. I did and I am also much healthier for it. But petitions to ban slaughter will never get anywhere, I'm afraid.
 
The long journeys to Canadian or Mexican slaughter plants are horrendous, and we've all seen the nightmare videos of the killing process in Mexico (bloke climbs on the horse and stabs through the spinal cord at the base of the skull - often requiring more than 20 stabs - not sure how propaganda-y the vids are), but something needs to be done.
Slaughtering horses is a necessity, like it or loathe it; it needs to be done.
If the US bans the transport of horses to these countries - what the hell is going to happen??
They need to reopen slaughter houses in America and stop all this suffering.
 
As far as I can tell, the very few abbatoirs that remained in the US were pretty appalling, hence the momentum to get rid of them. Slaughter wasn't banned across the USA, but federal funding for inspections was removed, which essentially meant that it could not go ahead.

Some states have banned slaughter and criminalised the transport of horses out of state to be killed for meat. This, of course, is pretty much impossible to enforce.

If I've understood correctly, what's now happened is that federal inspections have been re-financed, although of course there are no abbatoirs for them to inspect... It will take a long time before there's the infrastructure in place for this to actually result in any horses being slaughtered in the US, and they will probably still have to be transported over a long distance.

So it's a complicated problem. And the slaughter ban has been very bad for horses. BUT, you also have to bear in mind that the most recent slaughter-houses that folks in the US have seen were not decent, mom-and-pop places like Turners and Potters, but big Belgian-owned factories with bad animal welfare records and atrocious general practice – the towns in which they were located had to put up with all kinds of environmental/health violations.
 
I'm researching all this for a book (or part of one) –*hence the nerdery, but if anyone's curious, this piece covers the efforts to open new horse abbatoirs. I knew there were a few proposals (inevitably involving controversy – I think Wallis claimed to have Temple Grandin on her side, and she actually hadn't consulted her):

http://newsok.com/u.s.-horse-slaugh...es-of-planning-proponent-says/article/3626718
 
misterJinglejay said:
From reading that article, it sounds like the anti slaughter lobby are quite happy to send horses on long arduous journies to unlicensed plants, as long as it's not in America. Just wrong IMO.
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I think there are some parts of the anti-slaughter lobby who promote the idea of licences for ownership or breeding, but frankly the government spending required for that would be enormous. Mind you, the anti-slaughter lobby are ALSO arguing that the meat inspections "use government money to kill horses at a time of economic difficulty".

Someone's gotta pay for these horses somehow. Relying on private individuals to be responsible owners doesn't seem to work.
 
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