barbwire fencing

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silly question is there alaw against having this for horses fencing,
after reading a post on photos regards to having horse put to sleep regards to that fencing , just wondering if there was any law on it , or if it had a ban against it , if not i was think of starting a petition to try and get it banned ,ive seen and heard of so many injurys , it may be time to say it can no longer be used for horse or livestock purpurses

is it a good idea or not ??
 
as much as it is not a suitable fencing for horses, I don't think there are many better options for livestock, so wouldn't like to see it banned.
And no, there is no law to that effect.
 
While I agree barbwire is awful and shouldn't be used I think you would struggle with trying to get it banned. Most people know the damage it can cause and I think that the people you were trying to prevent wouldn't really care too much anyway.
 
my horse rolled near to the barbed wire fence, she got her back leg caught in it, she panicked of course, luckily i was there, but she broke free before i got to her, she was going into shock, and lost a fair bit of blood, the wound was very deep but could't be stitched,as it was in her heel.
my vet was fantastic.
but after about £1000(including laser treatment) she was ok, she still as a big scar.
hence the fact i now hate barbed wire fencing.
 
I absolutely hate the use of barbed wire fencing anywhere near horses. When I kept my horse at livery the YO kept her horses elsewhere where it was totally fenced with barbed wire- the injuries her horses sustained were horrendous. Having seen torn back legs/ torn chests I can safely say that using barbed wire with horses is an accident waiting to happen and wouldn't wish the experience on anyone.
 
Do you know that most injuries caused by barb wire that are 'life threatening' are caused by wire that has been incredibly slack and not well maintained????

We have 40 horses on our property. All our fences with the exception of three paddocks have barb wire on the top strand with stock lock below it.

We have NOT had a serious injury thanks to barb wire. Our fences are all tightly strung, the horses respect the fence and stay off it.

Our horses are not rugged either - with the exception of one who is clipped - and he is a shocker for leaning over it and ruining his rug if given the chance, so he is in a paddock without barb.....

Barb wire is a LOT safer than plain wire. Plain wire cuts like a knife through butter....

Barb wire has the barbs that poke in, and it doesnt slice.... it just skips along and causes superficial wounds for the most part :)

Barb is a necessity on farms and where you are keeping livestock. Cattle do not respect anything else.
 
landyandy said:
my horse rolled near to the barbed wire fence, she got her back leg caught in it, she panicked of course, luckily i was there, but she broke free before i got to her, she was going into shock, and lost a fair bit of blood, the wound was very deep but could't be stitched,as it was in her heel.
my vet was fantastic.
but after about £1000(including laser treatment) she was ok, she still as a big scar.
hence the fact i now hate barbed wire fencing.[/QUOTE/]

So glad your horse ok now xx
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I hate barbed wire however everywhere in my area uses it in field i rent i have ran a electric fence so they cant get near it esp as 2 have sweet-itch and would hurt themselves on it.
 
I kept my pony at a yard for 11 years and every field he was in had barbed wire, he never suffered an injury from it and as far as I recall, neither did the other 60+ horses that were there.

If I was fencing a field on my own property, I wouldn't choose to use it but I don't strongly object to it's use.
 
horsecrazy25 said:
landyandy said:
my horse rolled near to the barbed wire fence, she got her back leg caught in it, she panicked of course, luckily i was there, but she broke free before i got to her, she was going into shock, and lost a fair bit of blood, the wound was very deep but could't be stitched,as it was in her heel.
my vet was fantastic.
but after about £1000(including laser treatment) she was ok, she still as a big scar.
hence the fact i now hate barbed wire fencing.[/QUOTE/]

So glad your horse ok now xx
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thank you.
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unfortunately barb wire is essential for livestock
our horses are in paddocks with post and rail and som barbwire, but weve never had problems. at my previous yard my horse caught her legs up slack barbwire that another horse trashed the fence and dragged across the field, luckily not to much damage tho, just not pretty to see.
electric fencing about 1/2ft - 1ft inside the barbwire fence helps prevent accidents, and making sure its properly maintained!!!!!!!
 
quirky said:
If I was fencing a field on my own property, I wouldn't choose to use it but I don't strongly object to it's use.
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Ditto.

I've known of a foal knock itself out running into post and rail and a stallion who impaled himself whilst jumping a P&R fence and had to be pts. Every fencing has its downfall.
 
ShellCoburn said:
Do you know that most injuries caused by barb wire that are 'life threatening' are caused by wire that has been incredibly slack and not well maintained????

We have 40 horses on our property. All our fences with the exception of three paddocks have barb wire on the top strand with stock lock below it.

We have NOT had a serious injury thanks to barb wire. Our fences are all tightly strung, the horses respect the fence and stay off it.

Our horses are not rugged either - with the exception of one who is clipped - and he is a shocker for leaning over it and ruining his rug if given the chance, so he is in a paddock without barb.....

Barb wire is a LOT safer than plain wire. Plain wire cuts like a knife through butter....

Barb wire has the barbs that poke in, and it doesnt slice.... it just skips along and causes superficial wounds for the most part :)

Barb is a necessity on farms and where you are keeping livestock. Cattle do not respect anything else.
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shell can I ask how big your paddocks are?

I think a lot of the problems from barb wire and stock fence (the square stuff) are probably increased by small paddock sizes.

I would certainly never have it, post and rail around our paddocks :)
 
i understand it uses but , how many horses are hurt by post and rail each year compaired to barbwire fencing .
im very shocked to see so many people use it and have the attuide its not dangerous because my horse hasnt sustained a injury by it , when is it people are going to change fencing when there horse can no longer be ridden or even worse dealth . why do people want to take the risk .
i can understand that sum people use it because they have difficult ones to keep in , but what if one day that horse deciced to jump that fence whats to say if it jumps other type of fencing , whats to say it wont barbwire fencing in the future ??
 
Barb creates shallow messy wounds....they tend to be nasty cosmeticly, but to be totally honest, they are rarely serious. ....and if the barb is tight and well maintained it doesn't often cause ANY issues because stock respects it. Plain wire on the other hand... cheese wire! Slices tendons, degloves legs and causes life threatening gashes! ...and much more often than the minor scrapes from barb due to the complete lack of respect animals have for it! Your more likely to get wrapped up in the fence you lean over and paw at than the one that pokes you a little and you stay away from...

To the OP, just a little question, I get the feeling you are quite young? If I'm correct, ... perhaps with another..., say..., 20 or 30 years of experience you might realise barb really isn't THAT evil...treat enough plain wire injuries that require lengthy treatment and still end up permanently unsound, you'll start to enjoy the little barb tears that need a couple of stitches and a spray with iodine ...and they don't miss a day of work! oh....and have you ever tried to keep cattle in? I bet no!
 
I have post n rail in the main but one side has a very taught top line of Barbed Wire and i've had no problems.

Why does it have to be banned just use your discretion and if you don't want to put your horse in a field with it don't . Simply really.

I think with have enough issues without fencing police aswell.

Just MO.
 
my age has nothing to do with it . trust me i have seen main wounds from bardwire fencing ranging from scraps to full blown injurys by this fencing .
caused by fencing not maintained , horses jumping horses pawing at it ,if it so uncommen for a horse not to get seriously injured then why did a person who posted in photos of there horses that was only 15 had to be put to sleep, down to this fencing ??
and no i dont have livestock such as cattle ,
 
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Ester - our paddocks range from 1/4 acre to 6 acres each..... most are 2 or less....

Our place is split into numerous paddocks with laneways down between each of them for the most part.

We also ensure that we dont put horses directly over a fence to other horses. Thats just asking for trouble.

We have stallions over a 12 ft laneway from the other stallions with mares in with each of them and have never had anything more than a superficial scratch :)

Again though - I must stress - the fences are ALL tight and well maintained.

Have seen some horrific injuries from plain wire, post and rail, steel pipe rails (had one of our own break a leg on a 5 ft high pipe rail yard he decided to jump for the hell of it from a standstill right in front of us) and other supposedly 'safe' fencing. Know someone who had a foal strangle itself to death in an electric standoff wire - got its head under then over so it went around its neck and not only strangled it as it struggled but was zapping it at the same time.... truely awful.....

We have friends who have paddocks ranging from 100 acres to 2500 acres, and also other friends whose 'paddocks' are from 20 000 to 100 000 acres :) (one of my horses was out on agistment once on an 80 000 acre paddock..... apparently it took some time to bring him in when it was time for him to come back to civilisation! lol)
 
Totally agree with LHS, common sense should be the preferred option rather than banning something that has practical uses.

I note from your petition that you want it banned in livestock and equestrian situations. This clearly shows that you have no idea how modern agriculture works. Cattle and sheep need to be kept in their fields and as earlier posts have already pointed out they will push and push until they break through. In my experience this has included the total destruction of a stone wall. As long as fencing is well maintained and kept taut with strong posts and straining posts then there really shouldn't be an issue.
 
why does every one get all defenceless when a person starts a post on something they dont like ?
if you dont agree with what im saying dont post . i expect there are plenty of people that have had bad experiences with this that simply agrees with this . just because unfortualy you havnt experienced bad experiences with it __yet____
doesnt mean you wont
i can understand cattle use which i will remove but equestrian
so your basicly saying everone that had a horse injured by this fencing has no commen sence please?
 
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thanks shell, just trying to get a picture, I do agree with the maintained and tensioned comments, though I don't actually think I have ever seen well maintained barbed wire.. it tends to be the proviso of those who cannot be bothered! and as you say not having horses next to horses will also make a difference. From hearsay I would guess as many injuries are caused by poorly maintained electric fencing tapes/ropes.
 
I have known 3 horses put down due to fencing injuries.

2 were post and rail and the other was just straight wire. The straight wire was horrific, it degloved the lower fore limb and poor horse had to be pts there and then.

Post and rail injuries were due to breakages, one careered through it and was stabbed in the chest to quite a depth. The wound didn't kill him, the infection did. The second one was rubbing on the post and rail, got a splinter in the wither area that turned into a fistula. An operation to cut this away was successful but again a resultant infection that affected the spinal cord finished the horse off.
 
ischa, please dont think I was 'dissing' your opinion. I was just stating my opinon on Barb wire too :)

Each to their own I say, and I appreciate other peoples views on things - whether they differ to mine or not :)

Forums are all about peoples opinions and thoughts.... not everyone is going to agree completely on all matters - thats what makes life interesting :)
 
ok no problems , i will get some people that will disagree with this as a lot of people use it .
and like it ,but i will never will
 
martlin said:
Don't worry Quirky, I think we have a new resident troll:D;)
Just look at that name:D:D:D
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Oh my and we're only in the 2nd week of school holidays. Hopefully the dim little poppet will get bored and go elsewhere soon.
I shall not bother answering their latest idiotic comment.
 
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