cptrayes
Well-Known Member
People please, please stop talking about your individual horse, individual farriers and individual trimmers. Single cases are irrelevent. This is not about single animals or people, it's about "most" horses.
The Farrier - You think things through carefully and I'd be really interested to hear your view on the fact that horses are supposed to bear weight on their frog and that it is almost impossible to achieve this with any kind of shoe on the foot.
TPO the evidence you are looking for is horses which were condemned to die back in full work. Dozens of them. A group of them are happily hunting for up to seven hours on Exmoor, in the hands of a professional rehabilitation yard. One of those, just one of many, a 23 year old who was six years in heart bars and unsound. And yes there are MRI scans showing the cures.
The proof is in the Insurance Companies who are paying that yard to rehabilitate navicular horses so they do not have to pay loss of use claims. If you really want to know how that happens, as opposed to having a jolly good fun argument on this forum, do the research that's out there. Check my previous posts and you'll see the website addresses to start at.
People are so happy to have "expert opinions". How many children have been sent home from hospital with every symptom of meningitis, only to die, because people trusted the men in the white coats when they were told it was "just a bit of a virus, give them some junior paracetamol"? How many horses are being shot because expert vets and farriers are not telling owners that Insurers are paying for successful professional rehab for naviular horses?
One day, I predict, navicular syndrome will be recognised as
a) caused by shoes
b) curable in most cases.
I predict that knowing what harm shoes cause, we will return to the old days when horses had three months a year out of shoes, depending on whether they were spring/summer/autumn workers (SJ/showing/eventing) or autumn/winter/spring workers (hunters).
I predict that thousands of people will finally realise that their horses can do brilliantly well, roadwork, stones and the rest, without shoes at all.
I also predict that there will be dozens of heartbroken owners preparing to sue their vets and farriers, for not telling them about evidence that their horse might be able to be cured which was available in 2008, and instead recommending them to shoot their horses.
My hopes lie with the profit-orientated insurance companies, who surely will soon start to realise that they can refuse loss of use and death claims if a horse can be rehabilitated?
Meanwhile I continue to occasionally use forums to vent my frustration that my own vet (Head of a large Practice) shows a spectacular lack of interest in seeing the scans I have told him about. And that is in spite of the fact that he has had to vet two of my own horses for sale with A1 5 star vettings and seen my own horses hunt and event and the marvellous feet they have.
One day......
I won't post again, I have said what I want to say. If anyone wants to PM me with genuine enquiry and desire to learn more, please do. And you sceptics? I can assure you that there is NOTHING that you are saying here or anywhere else that I did not say myself before I took to barefoot in a desperate bid to save my own horse from becoming a cripple.
Bye folks.
The Farrier - You think things through carefully and I'd be really interested to hear your view on the fact that horses are supposed to bear weight on their frog and that it is almost impossible to achieve this with any kind of shoe on the foot.
TPO the evidence you are looking for is horses which were condemned to die back in full work. Dozens of them. A group of them are happily hunting for up to seven hours on Exmoor, in the hands of a professional rehabilitation yard. One of those, just one of many, a 23 year old who was six years in heart bars and unsound. And yes there are MRI scans showing the cures.
The proof is in the Insurance Companies who are paying that yard to rehabilitate navicular horses so they do not have to pay loss of use claims. If you really want to know how that happens, as opposed to having a jolly good fun argument on this forum, do the research that's out there. Check my previous posts and you'll see the website addresses to start at.
People are so happy to have "expert opinions". How many children have been sent home from hospital with every symptom of meningitis, only to die, because people trusted the men in the white coats when they were told it was "just a bit of a virus, give them some junior paracetamol"? How many horses are being shot because expert vets and farriers are not telling owners that Insurers are paying for successful professional rehab for naviular horses?
One day, I predict, navicular syndrome will be recognised as
a) caused by shoes
b) curable in most cases.
I predict that knowing what harm shoes cause, we will return to the old days when horses had three months a year out of shoes, depending on whether they were spring/summer/autumn workers (SJ/showing/eventing) or autumn/winter/spring workers (hunters).
I predict that thousands of people will finally realise that their horses can do brilliantly well, roadwork, stones and the rest, without shoes at all.
I also predict that there will be dozens of heartbroken owners preparing to sue their vets and farriers, for not telling them about evidence that their horse might be able to be cured which was available in 2008, and instead recommending them to shoot their horses.
My hopes lie with the profit-orientated insurance companies, who surely will soon start to realise that they can refuse loss of use and death claims if a horse can be rehabilitated?
Meanwhile I continue to occasionally use forums to vent my frustration that my own vet (Head of a large Practice) shows a spectacular lack of interest in seeing the scans I have told him about. And that is in spite of the fact that he has had to vet two of my own horses for sale with A1 5 star vettings and seen my own horses hunt and event and the marvellous feet they have.
One day......
I won't post again, I have said what I want to say. If anyone wants to PM me with genuine enquiry and desire to learn more, please do. And you sceptics? I can assure you that there is NOTHING that you are saying here or anywhere else that I did not say myself before I took to barefoot in a desperate bid to save my own horse from becoming a cripple.
Bye folks.
