Barefoot Advice - Angle Change & Heat

Kino

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Hello! Long time lurker here, really appreciating all the past and present barefoot threads and would love some advice.

Long story short, took hind shoes off mid October 22 followed by front shoes Nov 22. We were doing quite well but the last 3 weeks he has been reluctant to move apart from in walk, unless in the field where he is v happy to lunge and moves well. We do have a school, it's rubber strip but there are some decent chunks and to my / the physio/ the saddlers eye he is going a bit stabby toe first when asked to trot in there. No obvious one limb lameness.

I'm under no illusions - his feet are far from perfect and there could be so much causing this but specifically he has a decent angle change growing through on his fronts and an event line / ring on all four hooves from when shoes were removed. And the interesting thing is that the reluctance sort of coincides with when that line hit the ground on the heels in the fronts. Hooves are sometimes warm / hot ONLY on the event line (but no pulses). Has anyone had any experience of this before - poss with mild laminitic cases as the bad hoof grows out?

Obviously it's been horrifically wet, but soles have been holding up well, far firmer / thicker as far as I can tell without x-ray vision and concavity miles better than when shoes came off. Frog is a bit thrushy (esp RF) but nothing really deep / crevicey (treating it ofc). Only get a reaction poking him with the hoof pick around the heel bulbs themselves.

Okay that was long story only slightly shorter, sorry! Really grateful to anyone who reads and has any advice 🙏 badly taken pics mostly show progress from shoes off to 27/03/23 apart from RH where I appear to have lost March's photo so you have February's instead! March is 4 days post trim (by farrier)

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Thanks for replying! Tarmac he's been a bit reluctant on since the beginning but the main section I take him on is a little used drive / track so it also has stones etc dotted about.

I popped his front boots on his hinds today as I realised we've all been focused on the fronts and low and behold he went gleefully charging round the school 🤦‍♀️ vet is hopefully coming next week now to take foot x-rays to double check there's nothing sinister & will also ask her about the soft tissue possibility.
 

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I was the opposite focused on the hinds and didn't think about fronts, but mine has problems in both but only came to light after a proper workup but he is 19 now so it's the last one, so I had to throw everything at him and have the last few years gutted but I'm glad I know what's going on and I can work with it.
 

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Not quite sure which pics are which, but it looks as if the frog may be taking too much weight, due to the present lack of concavity. Boots and pads will help, and maybe take a look at Cavallo Barefoot Trim video on line and do a quick comparison.
 

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Not quite sure which pics are which, but it looks as if the frog may be taking too much weight, due to the present lack of concavity. Boots and pads will help, and maybe take a look at Cavallo Barefoot Trim video on line and do a quick comparison.
The frog was completely weightbearing on the hinds at the beginning, I don't really have the pictures to show it at the right angle because he was so sore I didn't want to mess around making him stand on one leg. I had checked the levels with my rasp at the heel when he was last trimmed (by the farrier) but after last night checked again and realised at the toe end of the heel quarters there's some that's proud. Hoping that's the reason we've had a drop off in comfort over the last few weeks.

This is probably the closest I have that shows how bad the frog Vs heel height was at the beginning. He walked like he had stringhalt for 3 days on anything but the softest of soft ground whilst I panicked and tried to find boots to fit - the shoes fell off, wasn't a planned barefoot transition otherwise I would have obviously done it differently!

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These look like a set of hooves that may benefit from Hoof Armour.
Had it in the back of my mind as a back up. Had been totally misinformed by someone (a professional) that you can't apply it to the frog only hoof walls / sole but I've just looked at their website again and it says it's good for all over.

As I've felt the frogs were the more likely culprit than the soles in the last month or so (soles are much thicker, harder, more concave than in beginning particularly hinds, have watched him step on a stone in both fronts on the toe area in a car park last week and not bother about them at all) I hadn't really brought it back to the front of my mind so thanks for suggesting 👍
 
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