Base narrow jaw/linguoverted canines

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No nasty comments please.

We recently attended our vets with our 8 year old beagle bitch Summer with another issue and we were talking about her weight loss (planned) where she has lost 4.5 lbs. Whilst there I happened to mention to the vet that our dog has always been very slow and steady when eating, she has never been too bothered about food, other than treats and she is extremely fussy with food and she has some very strange traits like she will turn her head to see if you are watching her eat, if she sees you watching she will stop until you turn away or leave the kitchen (I have no idea why she does this). She also waits outside the kitchen door at the bottom of the stairs whilst you are preparing her dinner and won't go near it until you tell her - she came to us like this at the age of 2 as a rescue so someone had obviously taught her this.

We have also noticed that she can be quite slow eating, as if you would eat something that is very hot with huge care and attention! But she always eats her food so has no problem with that, but often leaves the small bite mixer (soft or hard) and she will eat treats like those chicken twists and chicken fillet type treats but turns her nose up at anything else. She plays tug with various toys, its her favourite game. She prefers those softer plush toys with the squeak so we know that her teeth defect aren't causing any pain. She will run and chase a ball and retrieve it and she will play with other harder toys but prefers soft items.

Anyway the vet looked in her mouth and said that she had a narrow bottom jaw conformation and linguoverted canines. Said her lower jaw is narrower. She didn't say if there was any treatment for it and so we are going to leave it for now as she seems happy enough and the vet didn't think it was of any great concern.

I know she has a bit of tartar so we will get her some dentastix. Apparently this linguoverted canines is a common issue in a lot of breeds.
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Thanks for that. Well it seems that something should be done about it according to their website, but everything else I've read and the vets opinion contradicts that. And the owners of the article would say that, being a company they want the business.
I will have a word with the OH, she is insured but its going to be a general anaethetic so I'm not sure we'd take the risk if I'm honest, we nearly lost the last one under a GA.
 

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Honestly, at that age, nothing much is likely to change and I would just leave it alone if she isn't struggling/in pain.

Not wanting to be watched eating is pretty common, a lot of dogs find it threatening/stressful, best to just feed them somewhere quiet/leave them to it. Again, preferring softer toys isn't a sign of anything sinister, dogs use their mouths to relieve stress/sooth themselves, it's far more satisfying to exert pressure on something soft (like a stress ball) than something hard.

I don't actually rate Dentastix (please no PMs from the person who PMs any time Dentastix are criticised, it's my opinion!) there are much better options out there.

She certainly doesn't have the worst dentition I have ever seen.
 

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Honestly, at that age, nothing much is likely to change and I would just leave it alone if she isn't struggling/in pain.

Not wanting to be watched eating is pretty common, a lot of dogs find it threatening/stressful, best to just feed them somewhere quiet/leave them to it. Again, preferring softer toys isn't a sign of anything sinister, dogs use their mouths to relieve stress/sooth themselves, it's far more satisfying to exert pressure on something soft (like a stress ball) than something hard.

I don't actually rate Dentastix (please no PMs from the person who PMs any time Dentastix are criticised, it's my opinion!) there are much better options out there.

She certainly doesn't have the worst dentition I have ever seen.
Thank you for that. That is such a relief. We have enough stress at the moment.
Do you recommend this type? Wilko where we are going tomorrow sell them or similar.
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i got the whimzees for my dogs thinking they would be better than dentastx and they didnt want them so i gave them away, they are still on dentastix :D:D but do also have antlers and have quite a few rope toys as well. mine are small terriers and they both have lovely white teeth and one of them is 5 so i would have expected a little bit of tartar in his...they only have half a dentastix daily..
 

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i got the whimzees for my dogs thinking they would be better than dentastx and they didnt want them so i gave them away, they are still on dentastix :D:D but do also have antlers and have quite a few rope toys as well. mine are small terriers and they both have lovely white teeth and one of them is 5 so i would have expected a little bit of tartar in his...they only have half a dentastix daily..
Well I think I can say with certainty being how fussy our dog is, that if your dog didn't like them I doubt ours will. I bought her paddywack on holiday thinking she'd eat it in the caravan in the evenings when we were back from our days out but she turned her nose up at it.
 

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thanks for the article SD, very interesting, i am going to check my puppy later although my vet did check his mouth when he had his vaccination so i imagine he may have been looking for that condition..
 

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Thanks for that. Well it seems that something should be done about it according to their website, but everything else I've read and the vets opinion contradicts that. And the owners of the article would say that, being a company they want the business.
I will have a word with the OH, she is insured but its going to be a general anaethetic so I'm not sure we'd take the risk if I'm honest, we nearly lost the last one under a GA.

Sorry for not getting back to you yesterday, Birker.

I thought from your original post that you were concerned that your dog may be in discomfort when eating and that was why you mentioned it to the vet.

We have also noticed that she can be quite slow eating, as if you would eat something that is very hot with huge care and attention!

That would concern me, too, and would be something I would want looking into.

General practice vets are not dental specialists. If you and your OH decide you would like an expert opinion, you can find a list of veterinary dental specialists here -

https://findavet.rcvs.org.uk/find-a-vet-surgeon/by-specialist/dentistry/


More information and treatment options here (UK vet dental specialists)

https://www.dentalvets.co.uk/common-cases/lingually-displaced-canines



 

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I know she has a bit of tartar so we will get her some dentastix.

My dog had tartar on her teeth when I adopted her.

I give her a piece of dried turkey neck after her breakfast every day, this has cleaned her teeth nicely and keeps them clean. Though it worked for her it might not be suitable for all dogs.
 
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thanks for the article SD, very interesting, i am going to check my puppy later although my vet did check his mouth when he had his vaccination so i imagine he may have been looking for that condition..
We've had a variety of vets look at our dog over her time with us for various things, mostly vacs but the odd problem with a wart which we had biopsied and lots of recurring ear infections and general health checks and they've opened her mouth countless times like us, yet none of us noticed!
 
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