Bay mare going for slaughter

Oh lordy, here we go again. Have you not been told off for this enough times already??
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i've yet to find anything remotely decent to "save" on that website, this time around or for that matter, the last time it was brought to the forum's attention..
 
Nuffield should not be slated for this. I agree that we should not fuel the production of these horses but I do feel that N is bringing it to our attention that this is going on. Horses are being transported live for many days without adequate care. If the posts she/he makes do nothing more than highlight this than she has made a difference.

This site breaks my heart but that is because I personally cannot detach myself from the relationship I have with my horses. These animals have been bred for meat in the same way that cattle, sheep etc are bred in this country. The difference is they are being transported live over long distances and in unacceptable conditions.

These post highlight what the ILPH is trying to stop.

Sorry to the rest of you but I think Nuffield is right to keep posting as it keeps us aware of the situation not so far from our own backyard.

If I could save all the horses in the world I would, but I cant and I know if I did more would come along.

But dont slate Nuffield for trying to open our eyes.
 
The point is, we should be supporting the ILPH in their campaign, not buying these horses, who WILL be replaced. We are being told about a mushroom farmer, but he is not the only, or main, supplier of these horses.
Yes, Nuffield should be congratulated, but it would be better if it were for informing us about the Hook not Hoof campain, rather fuelling these peoples trade.
 
Well personally I see Nuffields posts as blatent advertising and thus breaking the Terms and Conditions of this forum. Perhaps it is time for a button-pusher to do their stuff??
 
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Im sorry but how can they not be 'decent' enough to save!!?? their all living breathing animals!

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And it is precisely that attitude that allows this site to flourish and make money form miserable horses and sof-hearted people. Sometimes, it is kinder to have an animal pts.
 
That's up to her - but if she were to advertise them on here then she would still be breaking the T&Cs in exactly the same way as she is doing with all these tonnes of adverts she posts.
 
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If the posts she/he makes do nothing more than highlight this than she has made a difference.

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But she does do more than that. She advertises against terms and conditions of the forum - hence why so many posts, similiar to this, have been deleted before...

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Sorry to the rest of you but I think Nuffield is right to keep posting as it keeps us aware of the situation not so far from our own backyard.

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Admin clearly thinks otherwise....

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But dont slate Nuffield for trying to open our eyes.

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I have my eyes wide open thank you!
 
I didn't think about that!!
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In my ILPH thread in News, Chip stated that he/she would never accept that horse meat is eaten across the world. Sophie221 has made her statement above about all/non being good enough to save. When will so-called horse 'lovers' wake up and realise that often, it is better for an animal to be pts, be it for consumption or cremation. There are far too many good horses to save all the bad ones.

The WHOLE POINT though is not to stop them being slaughtered for human consumption (would it be any better if it were for dog food??) but to STOP the LONG HAULAGE that they undertake.
Therefore, we must support the ILPH, not tr to rescue them all.
 
I dont see it as blatant advertising. Nuffield has nothing financially to gain (unless she/he is on commission!).

But I can see why you do, Tia.

I see it as informing us of what is going on in Europe. These posts have highlighted to me that this is going on very close to home. What I would like to see is the ILPH regularly posting on here to highlight these issues and keep them to the forefront of our minds.

I also feel that by rescuing "one" we are fuelling the production of more, so we should not do it, but we should be kept aware. Like I said, if Nuffield has done nothing more than made us more aware than he/she has made a difference to the plight of some horses in Europe.

This debate does need to be kept alive.

Thanks for reminding us this is going on Nuffield.

ETA I am not referring to the production of animals for slaughter but to the distances being travelled to slaughter and the conditions by which they are transported.
 
As ever, this topic will create opposing opinions.

Some of you will already be familiar with mine so sorry to bore you.
As you know, i rescued one of these horses from the mushroom farm. I personally went into it with my eyes fully open and well informed and for no profitable gain-just from charity and compassion.
There is much cruelty going on in this world towards animals/horses, such stories as highlighted on the ILPH site. As another member correctly said on another thread-why not show contempt for those cruel individuals who initiate the suffering not someone who attempts to relieve an animal of it.

You will find that the individuals who are involved in saving these french horses are also the same ones who do and will actively support the ILPH hook not hoof campaign.

Another point, not ALL the horses who end up on someones dinner plate are bred for that sole purpose. Often many have been ridden horses/ponies and are no longer wanted so have been sent to fattening fields so the 'farmers' can make more meat price. Unfortunately their final fate has been sealed by the hands of irresponsible owners.
For these horses, yes, they would have been better to have been humanely pts instead of someone trying to sqeeze their extra pound of flesh out of the poor horses and send them on their journey to death.
And yes some people do have to think 'ahh that is terrible' because thats where the compassion is and it will be those people who will go the extra mile to make the difference.
 
Then the correct method should be by posting updates directly from the ILPH site - not advertising French feedlot horses for sale.
 
As sad as it is, everyone of them is an example of why more thought needs to go into breeding. There is not one there that has a decent conformation, the poor things are all underweight. The sooner they are put out of their misery the better. We should be supporting the ILPH & not the producers.
 
Who is going to pay near 1000 euros for a horse, then pay 300-400 to bring the animal here, thats not including if the horse has paperwork, then its a nice trip from a french vet who will probably charge you an arm and a leg too!!!

Ok i rescued Murphy but i got him for bugger all!!
 
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Then the correct method should be by posting updates directly from the ILPH site - not advertising French feedlot horses for sale.

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Here here (baaaaaa
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Sorry but buying these horses only creates a market for it!! ( I would explain more but I have had a rather lot to drink
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I dont see it as blatant advertising. Nuffield has nothing financially to gain (unless she/he is on commission!).

But I can see why you do, Tia.

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Not just Tia, Admin does too
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