Bay without black legs?

chestnut, as he is listed?

you can get bays with restricted black pigment on their legs but he isn't one of them, pale coronets are a dead giveaway for a red horse :).
 
ester said:
chestnut, as he is listed?

you can get bays with restricted black pigment on their legs but he isn't one of them, pale coronets are a dead giveaway for a red horse :).
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This! Commonly called liver chestnut but as theres isnt any test for the genes that govern shade he is genetically chestnut
 
Diva&Rosie'sMum said:
stupid question&off topic but make makes "liver" chestnuts? Is it a sooty allele?
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Nobody knows :) 'sooty' does seem to be separate to coat shade, but it does seem to come up more on darker tones with chestnuts, a liink that I don't think I have seen with the other colours. I suspect Frank might have sooty because he has a very salt and pepper tail, but there would be no evidence of it in either his summer or winter coat shades.

This one has a darker mane and tail but on body colour I'm not sure I'd call him liver (which demonstrates the issues with shade terms) but that is partly because this is my liver reference.

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Frank is liver some of the year, in full winter coat he just looks bogstandard, though always on the red side of orange :D :D
 
ester said:
Nobody knows :) 'sooty' does seem to be separate to coat shade, but it does seem to come up more on darker tones with chestnuts, a liink that I don't think I have seen with the other colours. I suspect Frank might have sooty because he has a very salt and pepper tail, but there would be no evidence of it in either his summer or winter coat shades.

This one has a darker mane and tail but on body colour I'm not sure I'd call him liver (which demonstrates the issues with shade terms) but that is partly because this is my liver reference.

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Frank is liver some of the year, in full winter coat he just looks bogstandard, though always on the red side of orange :D :D
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Hmm okay thank you, funnily enough I'd call the horse you posted 'liver flaxen chestnut' or a silver of some sort (I'm uneducated and can't tell the difference between 1) bay and black silvers and 2) dark based horses with flaxen).

Only asking because the horse posted reminded me of a little fluffy beast next to my school who would phenotypically be a liver chestnut....with a ***grey*** mane and tail. I did briefly consider it being a really weird silver bay but the pale coronets however give it away as being chestnut based. Some digging revealed a pony online labelled "sooty flaxen chestnut" so I'm guessing that's what this beastie is. It looks like this, except the greyness in the tail goes all the way through and it has dapples.
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] It's a sweet little thing regardless though.
 
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But the one in the photo has a black mane and tail? Doesn't that make him bay? Or am I looking at another photo? They do seem to vary from picture to picture. I had a very dark liver chestnut years ago and the distinguishing feature was mane and tail were the same colour as her coat
 
Yes that is a flaxen liver chestnut Diva but the flaxen makes no difference to body colour which was what I was using him as an example of with regards to shade terms being subjective.

Sooty and chestnuts does seem to show up more in the mane and tail (especially with flaxen) rather than in body dapples like it does with say bays. Of course as a gene it is still hypothetical and a sooty bay may not be the same source as a sooty chestnut anyway.

Jill it isn't black, just darker red than the body. I would imagine at some times of year the body matches.
 
Which one equi?

you say about them being red, someone posted a spotted mini the other day who seemed to have extreme LP but still kept his blanket spots. The conclusion of the mini geek was hmm yes, well they tend to take things to the extreme :D.
 
He definatly a chestnut .
And a very useful looking horse I was looking at him earlier I do not need another horse I do not need another horse ...............
 
ester said:
Which one equi?

you say about them being red, someone posted a spotted mini the other day who seemed to have extreme LP but still kept his blanket spots. The conclusion of the mini geek was hmm yes, well they tend to take things to the extreme :D.
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Miniatures don't follow normal horse colour rules, or any rules in fact. Never trust a miniature!
 
Goldenstar said:
He definatly a chestnut .
And a very useful looking horse I was looking at him earlier I do not need another horse I do not need another horse ...............
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Have to say he caught my eye for other things than his colour. Shall we have half each?
 
OldNag said:
Since when has "need" been a deciding factor in horse-shopping? ;)

Go shop!!!! :D
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Haha
I should not be looking .
My barn is a building site so I only have three stables and four horses ATM .
Monarch are due on the 30th so a month or so after that I will have six stables and four horses that seems wrong somehow !
 
Goldenstar said:
Haha
I should not be looking .
My barn is a building site so I only have three stables and four horses ATM .
Monarch are due on the 30th so a month or so after that I will have six stables and four horses that seems wrong somehow !
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It's summer out there! Your half can live out.
 
You can get what is called wild bay they tend to have lighter legs rather than the black, both of my Arabs legs go light in the summer and one of mine has a lot of light hairs in his mane.
 
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