BD question re. points

[_jetset_]

I took one of my horses into an elementary class this week and she came away with 64.48% (3 points I believe). I compete my younger mare at Prelim and would really like to take her to the Petplans in October at this level and the older one to the Novice and Elementary if we can get one more sheet over 62% in the elementary.

So my first question is how many elementary points am I allowed before I become a group 6 rider?

When I become group 6, am I right in thinking I can no longer compete in the Prelim classes with my younger mare, and am Novice open with both horses?

If I am still group 7 when I do the Petplans (and should my younger mare get through to the finals), if I upped to group 6 after this date could I no longer take the younger mare?

Thanks in advance, I am very very confused

 

[Law]

Why not ring BD as they are well versed in helping with this sort of query?!

http://www.britishdressage.co.uk/uploads/File/Rules%202008/BD_Rulebook%202008%201.pdf

Page 6 refers to the rider groups but is not much help in trying to work it out!

 

[_jetset_]

I just got myself more and more confused looking at the rule book

 

[Halfstep]

I think you can get 15 points at elementary before your rider group changes.

 

[carthorse]

I got part of this checked before Rafi did his first elementary as they didn't want to be knocked out of winter prelim regional but it was looked up and we were told you are allowed 14 elem points then you have to go novice open and no prelims on any horse [ strange rule].
We are going to do the next one as training then the points don't count but you can use then for pet plan sheets.

 

[Stoxx]

As far as I am aware...

As Halfstep said, you can keep your rider group 7 status until you have over 14 points at Elementary. Once you are group 6 you will then have to ride at novice open regardless of the horse, and you will no longer be able to ride in the restricted sections at Prelim. I'm sure this means you have to be a group 7 or 8 rider at the time of competing, so therefore you would need to be at the Winters, should you qualify

 

[carthorse]

Sorry can do prelims but in open so can't qualify for regionals

 

[_jetset_]

OK, so...

I can get 14 points at Elementary until I become a group 6 rider.

I can continue to ride Prelim Rest. with my younger mare until I become a group 6 rider.

 

[Tempi]

yup thats right

 

[_jetset_]

If I qualify for the winter Petplan finals as a group 7 rider, but then become group 6, can I still compete???

(The way she is going at the moment, I don't think we will even be going to the petplans

)

 

[Stoxx]

I don't think you can, you have to be eligible on the day of competition, or at least when entries close.

 

[_jetset_]

I have just checked with BD... As long as eligible at time of AF, you can ride in the finals. Unlike the Regionals. God it is complicated

 

[Stoxx]

That is complicated, seems silly that the rules aren't similar across the board!