Be warned.....RANT!!! - timeWASTERS!! - Sellers!!

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wizzi901

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Travelled over 2 hours each way last night with a friend who was looking for a normal, genuine, 9-12 year old RC gelding. We got to the place and horse looked nice.

My friend rode it for about 2 minutes, risking life and limb and the horse was way off what it was described as!!! - then we get the feeling they think we are timewasters, tell them it is sadly not what she is looking for and why on earth didnt they tell us in the various emails that it is bordering on dangerous and not a RC horse whatsoever!! - it couldnt even work in a circle at all or a straight line, it was inside out scewif, the lot!

My other no fear friend tried it in case it had some ability that was worth working on,....sadly not, its been wrecked over the years was prob fab once upon a time, its walk was sane but after that forget it, it crabbed, it hopped it was ridiculous, not one mention of this behavior in the advert or later!!!

So to sellers who quote timewasters on their ads, I would like to point out that if you put (as most do) an honest advert up like "very fizzy at all times!" never been schooled in its life and make a cool teenagers fun hack, doesnt even look at the jumps but a nice horse, which it was, a lovely person, then they may sell it for someone looking for that!!
GRRR

What a waste of time!
We are not looking for a perfect hrose, just something my friend can do novice dressage, low RC jumping and the od sponsored ride!!!! Over 16hh!¬!!! guaranteed 5* home and lots of massages as mate does equine massage, where are they all?? Loan or LWVTB...approx 2.5k!#
 
hasten to add that neither of my friends are novices, very experienced and adaptable riders, and the woman (girl) selling was in such a huff she didnt even ssay goodbye just because it was not suitable for what we were looking for.
 
Having been in a similar situation myself when I went looking - I have to say I just put it down to experience.

I looked at one that was - well - indescribably really. Nothing like the add.

The chap got on it - did one circuit of the school and I politely told him that I didn't wish to see any more.

Like I said, think you just have to put it down to experience. Bet you the next horse she goes to see will be better, because she will have asked more questions on the phone before viewing it.
 
My mare sounds like the PERFECT horse for your friend..... and I am selling her.... atleast I was about to advertise her when she went lame... don't think it's anything that will affect her future - she's at my vets clinic being looked at..

She's 15/16 though... too old????

PM me if you want info...

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Oh the joys of looking for a new horse!

Exactly the same happened to me!

We travelled 2 1/2 hours to see a horse, when we arrived he was in a terrible condition and looked nothing like the pictures. The woman rode him 1st, lost her temper with him when he wouldn't school in a circle and said "I hate this effing horse, it's a right 'B', this is embarissing" Yes love! - your right, just listen to yourself!
I would of given her £100 just to take him away and get him back into condition!
 
I think you might just struggle to find a horse of that discription for 2.5k, at that budget you are going to look at a lot of dodgy ones, unless of course you dont mind an older one.
 
Hi Marsden I may have what you are looking for, 16'3 11yo gelding, has done bit of everything, Novice Dressage, PN eventing, Team chasing, hacks alone or in company good with traffic as we live on a very busy road....

The price is in the 3-4 k bracket.

PM me if you want more info

Oh I'm near Buckingham.
 
I looked at just under 20 horses in my search. Saw one who was supposed to be an allrounder, they asked me if I wanted to jump it, I said yes (advert showed it jumping) jumped about 2ft 6 which was what they put up, they then say "oh you two are made for each other no one has managed to jump him in months he is so stroppy and times!"
 
looking for a young rider mount this year,actually opened the eyes of a friend of mine and we saw some interesting horses on the way
2 where lame when we got there
1 so ill he couldn't get his head off the ground nearly i ended up telling the owner he needed to get a vet
1 bar fired (forgot to mention that when we rang) also another horse at that yard only had 1 and half eyes (yep they had left the horse with half and eye)
1 we couldn't take out on the road but was fine in traffic
1 was discribed a forward (yep give them that) but they forgot to mention that it was schooled to medium level so whenever anyone put a bit of leg on wonderful sideways and turn on the fore hand and fast at the same time (that one was still for sale 5 months later)

ended up trying and buying one in the rain, nice chap even has 4 legs ok in traffic but needs bit of work

so keep looking they are out there....................

years ago i went to see a grey cob gelding, by the time i got there it had turned into a chestnut mare!! now thats miss selling!
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One I tried I was told was an excellent jumper, indeed he was, what they forgot to tell me was when the fences were small he jumped about 3 times the height........I fell off and broke my finger and nose!
 
What did the sellers say? Did they say it was having an off day or something?!

One of the ponies I was selling - who I had advertised as forward going & sensitive yet sensible, which she totally was. This pony had never put a foot wrong through me backing it etc. and was a lovely thing who had never been naughty etc. Well, this woman came to see her on a very windy winters day (never a good idea). Pony was absolutely horrendous! I couldnt believe how bad. I mean spooking all over the place and hyper as hell, I couldnt get her to do anything normally! It was so humiliating, I actually gave up, went over to her and said there was no point in continuing as she was having a serious off day so sorry for wasting her time! I wouldnt have bought her that day! So sometimes horses DO have a really bad day, but maybe in this case I could be way off thinking this!

I went to see a horse described as a schoolmaster & perfect allrounder. Yeah right, this horse refused to go anywhere near a jump unless he was allowed to go 200 mph! For some reason I did buy the horse, I think because I fell in love with his temperament (he was lovely) and thought because he was still quite young that I could reschool him. I did manage to get him jumping calmly after a lot of work but he still never had the attitude in the end. We'd heard he'd been beaten up in the SJ ring a few times as a youngster so no wonder the poor horse hated competing. They showed me pictures of him jumping XC so I figured he must be quite good. Turned out he was..... after he'd napped for a good 10 minutes at the XC start!! Not quite a schoolmaster or an allrounder (let alone a "perfect" allrounder!)
 
I have the same things happen with my pony too...
Not only did I have people come along who could not ride to a confident level but some didnt even know how to mount...!
I advertised my mare a while ago at forward going, fizzy and not a novice ride but I still had people come along who were not confident and I refused to let them ride her in the end...
It is so annoying isnt it...you waste your time driving down there getting the horse ready and looking good and then someone shows who is not suitable. I can imagine it is the same for people going to look at horses...people should be honest otherwise it wastes everyones time...
I had an instructor ring me up at one point to talk horsey so she could judge whether my pony would be suitable...quite a good thing to do I spose but also worrying to think the mum thought my fizzy pony wasgoing to be suitable for a child who had just learnt to ride.....very, very frustrating...I truely sympathise...
 
It drives me potty. Why risk someone's safety by letting them ride something which isnt what you've told them it is?

Even worse are the eejits who do it with kids ponies. I really do not know what metality these people have, but to try and sell a pony that rears and bolts as soon as it sees a car as "first pony, 100% in every way, bomb proof" makes the mind boggle. I'd love to see their idea of something more foward going. They then make YOU feel stupid for not seeing it's potential and not understanding the fact apparently it's been in all week, so is a little jumpy today....
We shall one day have to go through this buying lark again, but not yet. My purse, the car and my nerves have only just recovered from the last time. T'was traumatic at times.
 
First impressions are sometimes wrong.

Years ago I had an Arab gelding who, was a bit too excitable for my liking. He didn't really jump all that wel and wasn't all that fab in traffic.

A young lady came to try him who had only learnt to ride on donkeys and couldn't even canter. She loved my pony and wanted to buy him. Her parents were clueless, and as she'd saved her pocket and birthday money to buy him, they agreed if she wanted him she could have him.

She had him vetted and her vet did his best to talk her and the parents out of buying my pony because he thought he was too mad/excitable.

Anyway, this girl bought him, absolutely loved him and they were a fantastic pair. I lost touch with her after about 10yrs of ownership.
 
difference is , you were truthful about it! If you advertised it as 100% suitable for a numpty when it wasnt then that's just dis honest, but if you sell it as something for the more experienced rider and a numpty buys it that's their look out.
 
We stupidly travelled for nearly 3 hours to look at an absolute paragon of virtue if you believed the ad which was about four times then length of anything else on Horsemart. With its' own owner on board this mare was spooking at just about anything and everything, then span in the road with her at a car! This was the bombproof, perfect for learner rider type horse - NOT.

Told her I wouldn't get on the horse, and certainly wouldn't allow my novice husband who the mare was for to either. The woman spent the whole time as we were getting ready to leave saying "oh but I KNOW she is the horse for you"...
 
How frustrating!

It works the other way too - I am selling a three year old at the moment, she's 15h and will probably make 15.1/15.2, which is clearly stated in the advert - woman telephoned, wanted an andalusian but could not afford an older one, had experience of bringing horses on - sounded perfect
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Lady turned up on time but as she got out the car I saw she was about 5'10 and weighed about 18 stone - I know andalusians are weight carriers, but how on earth did she think my 3yo was going to carry her weight? Total waste of both our times
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Now last year I was the other side of the fence . I was trying to sell my TB gelding and got no phone calls at all . He was a lovely chap , who was more that capable of doing anything you asked him . He just needed a bit of schooling as when I had him we had no school .
He wasnt overpriced (2k) and there was nothing wrong with him (passed 5 stage vetting when we eventually sold him)
So I have to say the horses are out there and I was compleltly honest with his buyers (horsemart emailed me to tell me I'd written to much in my advert and I had to cut back
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He was advertised for 2 months I didnt have one phonecall , I then took him hunting , updated his ad and he was sold within a week . Supose people liked to know my TB was sane with other horses
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