BE80 and BE90 dressage judging.

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The same tests are used in 80T and 90. And often the 80 and 90 sections are on the same day with the same judges. Do they expect more from the 90 riders for a given mark than the 80 riders are do they mark both the same?
 
That's interesting. I assumed they were marked the same but one of my RIs said they were more forgiving for the 80Ts. So not sure now. But if the judges don't even know the section then obviously they are the same.
 
Having scribed for both on several occasions, IMHO they are marked the same. No judge has ever suggested to me that they judge them differently. Most of ‘my’ judges have said how much they enjoy judging BE, though, as the combinations seem to enjoy themselves much more than in pure dressage :).

I have also scribed for a BE90 Regional Final, and again that was judged as just another BE90 class, rather than expecting a higher standard.
 
Tiddlypom said:
Having scribed for both on several occasions, IMHO they are marked the same. No judge has ever suggested to me that they judge them differently. Most of ‘my’ judges have said how much they enjoy judging BE, though, as the combinations seem to enjoy themselves much more than in pure dressage :).

I have also scribed for a BE90 Regional Final, and again that was judged as just another BE90 class, rather than expecting a higher standard.
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That's interesting. I've also noticed that people (including me) are quite tense during straight dressage but more relaxed during eventing dressage.
 
mule said:
That's interesting. I've also noticed that people (including me) are quite tense during straight dressage but more relaxed during eventing dressage.
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If I judge by my own reaction, that was because the only reason I was doing the dressage at all was to get on to the cross country course. So as long as I got a score that allowed me to go forward and show jump, I didn't really care much what it was. If I got in the placings, it was just a bonus. There were a lot of people like me at the time, it's all got a bit more serious these days.

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They wouldn't be judged any differently. I would be surprised if the same judges were to judge both a BE80T and a BE90 on the same day as they are usually huge sections (up to 40 combinations per section).
 
I was warming up for the 90 when the 80 Section was finishing. So I went in after the last 80 competitor. The judge wanted a 10 minute break to stretch her legs between the 2 sections but there was no change of judge. That was at Stafford. But maybe that was unusual.
 
Judging two full up BE sections on the same day with a short break in between is not normal practice at all, and if the classes were full it is far too much to expect anyone to do. I imagine that there was a late no show from another judge, so this one nobly stepped into the breach.

It’s hard enough scribing for one class of 40, in which you get just two short breaks in which there is time to either go to the loo (and hope that there isn’t a queue), or have some refreshments.
 
Tiddlypom said:
It’s hard enough scribing for one class of 40, in which you get just two short breaks in which there is time to either go to the loo (and hope that there isn’t a queue), or have some refreshments.
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I write at BD regionals quite often which can have similar class sizes and yes, by the end of the class my handwriting can be a bit squiffy and my hand is aching. it's a long day.
 
You don’t have to be a judge or even a trainer for 80 /90 just ridden up to Medium BD so it’s a bit hit and miss at that level
 
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