Beauiful Collie Looking for a special home as he has epilepsy - Currently in Kennels

roxy007 said:
If several posters work in animal welfare then they would not be posting derogatory comments. I too work in animal welfare and my opinion is that this is not a welfare case, there is good quality of life and he is happy and if someone gives him a chance to see how things progress then hats of to them. Where is there a welfare issue here?
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Well excuse me, Im obs not allowed an opinion, Im up to my neck in animal welfare, I asked questions, who would pay for the expensive meds? as this is always a huge factor in rehoming a dog, Im also a nurse and know how expensive this can be, esp when running into emergency hours (yes we do see alot of epileptic dogs at work in emergency hours at no less than £200-£300 a time for meds and stabalization and the emergency fee it;s self)
We have dogs that have been homed with medical conditions (which we pay for) this is based on quality of life and what kind of medical problem it was.
As mentioned this dog has multiple health concerns, not just epilepsy! of course people will question his welfare in a kenneled environment, it;s stressful enough for healthy dog with no issues.

How long would this dog be in kennels? (no body knew) it could be months and months, if he has a home well and good it not, then surely those who make his condition out to be "no big deal" take him on.
Im not sure what the post was then, was it for someone here to take him or a friend of theirs but have no other opinion. (strange)

We pay thousands of pounds out a year on vet bills and treatment, please don't tell me im all doom and gloom and don't give a ****, I also dont have the luxury of having one pet pooch in my home.
 
roxy007 said:
This is not life at any cost. The dog is happy, able to go happily for walks is not blind and has a good quality of life. I think the easiest thing to do is not to reply any further - Gaelforce you should do similar - why waste your time on these idiots on here that do not read the whole post as their questions are answered in the post by the fosterer.....maybe its them that are blind or can't read due to limited intelligence!!!!

The dog is not going to ANOTHER foster home he is looking for a permanent home where he can really settle. How difficult is that to comprehend (oh yes I forgot its the regular moan and groan brigade I am explaining too). Actually no I won't explain it further as clearly you are all too up your own backsides to actually understand what Gaelforce was posting for.

TO FIND A PERMANENT HOME FOR MOTTLED.

However lets not waste any more time having a battle of wits with people who are clearly disarmed. Good luck Gaelforce - good on you and good luck Mottled :0)
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I'm not disagreeing with the OPs intentions. She clearly is a very compassionate human being. But when your compassion outweighs realism, then you are on a losing battle. It's terribly sad to make the decision of death over life. No-one, who has loved and loves their animal companions finds it an easy decision. This dog has multiple health issues and has to take mind altering drugs for him to lead a half decent life. Half-decent just isn't enough for me and I couldn't do it. Perhaps, this is a failing in me but ultimately the dogs welfare is paramount.
 
Only just read all this, brand me with the heartless as it does sound to me as this little dog does not have a very good quality of life. I have a 10 year old who is losing her sight and has we think some sort of very mild brain damage, although she does not have fits. I know how dependent on me she is, and how unsettled in familiar surroundings. It sounds as if this collie is far worse than her, perhaps now is the time to give him peace while he has some degree of security rather than uproot him yet again.
 
I don't understand those who are jumping on people who are suggesting maybe it's time to call it a day with this dog? Ok, so we don't KNOW the dog, maybe he isn't that bad BUT the OP stated that he has epilepsy -ok that's one thing and, on it'sown may well be manageable. However, on top of this she has said he is or may be blind, would appear to have suffered some brain damage and also has digestive problems.

That is not just one simple condition to deal with and yeah sure, many dogs with epilepsy are managed well for years but most of them i imagine were diagnosed with the condition when they were with their owners - no many people would take on a dog knowing it had a serious medical condition which, as mentioned is not cheap to manage.

we are the ones who have to make the ultimate decision at the end of the day and decide whether the dog does actually have a quality of life - do the happy days outweigh the bad? How often is the dog visibly distressed/wiped out and not aware of his surroundings? How scary do you think that is for an animal that cannot rationalise, it does not know what is happening to it so therefore it is likely pretty terrified. I would hate to have an animal I felt was distressed a lot of the time and that is when the decision would be made.

Maybe this one isn't as bad as the post made him out to be but he certainly didn't sound particularly well.
 
I wouldn't keep a dog with bad/severe epilepsy alive personally.
Not putting on a flameproof suit, don't care if anyone calls me a murdering cow, it is just my opinion and I will cross that bridge if and when I come to it.
My best friend has a dog with epilepsy, on medication and does well, he is a great lad, I don't judge her, she doesn't judge me, we know each other's position and we respect each other for it.
 
The reason for your initial posting was not clear I now understand that you are trying to find a home for the dog but it appeared to me that you were asking for comment so I provided you with one, clearly not the type of comment you wanted judging from your response.

I am sorry that the story of my spaniel caused you issues but I used it to show why I think there are times where prolonging life is not necessarily the best option and when I added my opinion I had a reason behind it. Caring for such a dog is difficult, there are side effects from the drugs such as liver failure, finding care is hard due to the fits (my dog was aggressive each time she came round from a fit) and it is very expensive with frequent visits to the vet for blood tests. I looked after her for two years, I am very able to understand the situation, and only pulled out when her quality of life was impaired. The cause was different but the effect was very similar.

You are describing a stressed dog, that does not deal well with change or with the situation it is currently living. Whilst there may be a few homes out there that could deal with the situation how long will you have to wait to find one causing the dog more and more stress? I appreciate that you are trying to do the best for the dog, who I am sure is lovely, but if you value quality of life I believe you should also question what is happening. It should never be quantity of life at all cost.

I wish the dog lots of luck in finding a home and that this can be sooner rather than later. I for one, if I didn't work full-time, would consider taking on such a dog again, I could cope with the medical condition plus I can afford to pay its medical bills but I am not sure how many could. There are lots of experienced people on this foum who clearly have had similar experience but I don't think that this is reflective of the general population.
 
This is SUCH good news. I hope all goes well for him and look forward to reading his news when he has settled in.

I apologise, as he had dissappeared down the website and I assumed he had been rehomed as Sylvia had said he would stay at the top of the website until he had, so when you first posted, I did wonder if you were trying to stir up trouble!

It does show that there are people out there who are willing to help these dogs. I myself am waiting for her next hard to home, unpleasant, difficult, aggressive terrier as I have a vacancy after losing Smiffy last year!
 
Smitty said:
This is SUCH good news. I hope all goes well for him and look forward to reading his news when he has settled in.

I apologise, as he had dissappeared down the website and I assumed he had been rehomed as Sylvia had said he would stay at the top of the website until he had, so when you first posted, I did wonder if you were trying to stir up trouble!

It does show that there are people out there who are willing to help these dogs. I myself am waiting for her next hard to home, unpleasant, difficult, aggressive terrier as I have a vacancy after losing Smiffy last year!
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LOL I lost my bulldog last week so am waiting for the next hard to home, snoring, snapping, have your arm off charmer. If she finds one she can give me a call too.

No am gonna go down the puppy route when its less raw.
 
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