Bedmax Bedding?

Oh for goodness sake!

Get off this girl's case!!! And that is aimed at anyone who snipes or has a go at her. She's trying her damndest and every single time she comes on here to ask a question she is got at.

Since when the heck were any of the rest of us so flaming perfect???

If you don't like the OP, either her style of writing or the fact that she asks questions, or heavens forbid that she might/might not have money, don't open the thread!

Takes a lot to get me riled, but this really does take the biscuit.
 
Havent read all comments, but have you tryed shavings? Mines in 24/7 over winter apart from 3 days a week when hes in the field during the day and i only use 2 bales and he is a messy beast!! I take pee and poo out everyday aswell, so beding costs me £13 a week.
 
DH1 said:
OP in one of your 53 posts in June you celebrated purchasing a Henri de Rivel saddle, more recently you have been looking to purchase a new Bridle and some Boots, and now a £6.00 lunge line is beyond your means?
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It could be the fact that her parants pay for the horse. And with every thing going on ie, saddle, ringworm, extra bedding that she feels she's unable to approach them about something else.

Shes said before that her parents are un-horsey. I know it was a pain when I was young and had to ask for things, my mum was a easy target but if I went to my dad it would be a straight no.

Maybe she could get a job, if she hasnt already got one. But we dont know what her home situation is, and maybe that isnt a current opt.

BSJA123- could you ask some one to sell you an old lunge line that you pay for at a later date, say in 2 weeks or offer to do there stables, tack clean while the schools are off?
 
We use bedmax on earth floors and it works well in them. We have pretty big boxes and deep litter for a week at a time and then leave a bottom layer in. I should imagine that they could be a pain with concrete/badly drained floors.
 
MrsMozart said:
Oh for goodness sake!

Get off this girl's case!!! And that is aimed at anyone who snipes or has a go at her. She's trying her damndest and every single time she comes on here to ask a question she is got at.

Since when the heck were any of the rest of us so flaming perfect???

If you don't like the OP, either her style of writing or the fact that she asks questions, or heavens forbid that she might/might not have money, don't open the thread!

Takes a lot to get me riled, but this really does take the biscuit.
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This^^^.
I don't suffer fools gladly, but for heaven's sake, can't you people just answer the girl's question or not bother replying at all?
OP, I don't get on with Bedmax at all, no matter what I tried to do with it, it always looked messy and got stinking wet all the time.
I use shavings in summer and wood pellets in winter, deep bed the lot and however tempted I am, don't remove the wet for first week or so, then the bed gets established and becomes much easier to maintain.
Just a thought, though - as she has ringworm, you might be better off keeping a small bed for her and remove the lot after she gets the all clear.
 
BSJAShowjumper123 said:
thanks :)
so now can everyone stop argueing with me about it?
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Well done :) It's time you stuck up for yourself on here.

Without drainage, mats will stink. Without drainage, mats + Bedmax will stink even worse! We had a girl on our yard try it and in the end we all complained to YO because the smell in an American barn was unbearable.

We use straw; tried all the others and came back to it. We deep litter over winter, the horses are always warm, and properly managed the beds stay fresh and smell free on top. OK its hard work to dig out eventually, but worth it.

Hope the ringworm is getting better and watch you don't get it yourself.
 
horsecrazy25 said:
thats good, what about all the other horses on the livery?
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The test for ringworm is a scrape test of the infected area so how the heck casn the vet 'test the others' until there is a sign of it. The test is to confirm the diagnosis and treatment. Leave her alone and stop going off-topic.
 
Totally back on topic, I use Bedmax & love it. I remove poo daily (or as he does it if I'm there) using rubber gloves. I remove a few inches of wet as it gets near the top of the bed, usually a couple of times a week. I use about three bales a week, not bad for a big horse that's currently in around 20 hours a day (don't bite me, he's getting over laminitis & the wet has meant the grass is growing like mad - I won't risk it). I start off with a very deep bed & keep it well topped up because I find he's cleaner that way - the wet drains to the lower layers & he doesn't churn it up moving around. The top of the bed always looks clean, is dry & doesn't smell. He's more than happy to lie down in it, to be honest I'm happy to sit in it to have a cuppa with him!
 
Iv been on most beddings as my 25year old is dirty as they come unlike the 11year old =]
but nothing seemed to work nedzbed was ok until he began to eat it then shavings were doing well until i was paying £10 a bale!! then eventuallly i gave up orded straw and yes he ate it so i went to my local tack shop brought ''mukka Bed'' and you spay a diluted amount on your bed and by the 3rd day he wouldnt eat it amazing stuff and i still have it i just spray it on the new straw and its great he does have the odd mouthfull
and sadly i have no knowlage of ringworm never had a horse with it so i wont put my foot in it hahaa
 
It's not the case that with no drainage mats will stink. As long as you have good absorbant bedding and properly fitted mats no wee should get under them as the bedding should soak it up - I wouldn't personally deep litter with them though. I use Equimats with a decent sized bed and lifted them after a year (they're really light) to wash under them - they were dry with just a thin strip around the edges where some wee had run down.

Massive saving if you can stretch to mats - I would then do as another poster suggested as your mare is in 24/7 - use a 'day bed' through the day (through the majority of the bed up around the banks) then pull it down in the evening.

:)
 
G&T said:
It's not the case that with no drainage mats will stink. As long as you have good absorbant bedding and properly fitted mats no wee should get under them as the bedding should soak it up - I wouldn't personally deep litter with them though. I use Equimats with a decent sized bed and lifted them after a year (they're really light) to wash under them - they were dry with just a thin strip around the edges where some wee had run down.

Massive saving if you can stretch to mats - I would then do as another poster suggested as your mare is in 24/7 - use a 'day bed' through the day (through the majority of the bed up around the banks) then pull it down in the evening.

:)
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I guess the 'properly fitted mats' is the clue :)

I have wondered about sealing mats with a mastic, it would peel away if the mats needed to be lifted but make them watertight the rest of the time. Anyone ever tried anything like this or is it totally stupid?
 
I have used Bedmax for many years and think it's great. Always full muck out and take the wet out in the evenings too. I use one of these forks - just found this link for you to look at - I didn't pay that much for mine and it's not the same as a regular shavings fork. http://www.lesliesutcliffe.biz/erol.html?328x593#328X593 I also use http://www.wessexanimalhealth.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Disfectants_and_Stable_Hygiene.html on the floors and that keeps all the boxes smelling sweet. It lasts for ages and is really good. Bedmax isn't the cheapest of options but then what is cheap with horses?! I'd use 3-4 bales per week and always rotate the banks so the bedding is being constantly moved, used and replaced. Might be an idea for someone to show you how to do this as it certainly keeps the beds very clean. The horses are stabled all the time apart from when exercised etc. They are always on full beds and this works well for me. I know that you can get very messy horses that either pee a lot or box walk, dig etc - you can still keep their beds clean be it with straw, shavings, paper etc - just takes a little extra work :-). Having had some extremely filthy horses I can vouch for this and I am more than happy to run through an a, b, c on how I keep mine so clean.
 
My mare is really wet and likes to trample it all in, unfortunatly the bedmax just didn't soak it up very well, so loads of it just got soaked. When I tried it she wasn't even in 24/7 and I was getting through 3 a week! She also eats straw (I know not a prob if you use oat straw, but when she was eating every scrap in her stable over night - bit too much!!). She is now on sundown gold. It is a mixture of big flake shavings and chopped straw (or might be rape straw, can't remember exactly I'm afraid). There are other makes which do the same product. About £6.50 - £7 a bale round here, I use 1-2 a week when she is in overnight and she has a good deep bed with big banks. When she is just in overnight I skip out for about 3 days, then take the wet out. If she didn't walk it in then I could probably leave it longer without taking the wet out. It works well as with a decent base it settles so the wet is absorbed and the patches stay put, while keeping the top nice and dry. Good for making banks too. I find it the best as shavings were just too expensive. Plain chopped rape straw was really good, but I like decent banks and this just slides down. So the mix is just right.
hth, when they are in 24/7 it really is expensive on bedding unfortunatly.
 
thanks everyone :) and iv tryed to use to for semi deep litter but she turns it all up so the poos mixed with the wee and then she wees in over places and walks on it and its just turns up < mum said we can get rubber matt i was thinking could i do half a bed?
like only cover half with a deep bed and not the other?
sorry if someone has suggest this? :)
 
Yes, you can mat half the stable, then have bedding on the area she likes to wee/poo/lie down - people do what works for their horse/them.

The only issue will be the mats will move, so you'll have to kick them back into place. It's not a drastic move, they just shift a bit.

Edited to add: Dizz is the same. No matter what I try her on, she destroys it! She just seems to like digging, the deeper the bed, the more she likes to dig!
 
Straw is the better option, my girls munched on it so i sprayed it..... i deep litter, take poohs out daily and the wet once every two weeks, i use a bale a week between two stables to top up and one of my girls is a foul messy pig!!! she somehow manages to pooh on top but dig it to a lower layer and they cover it :D:D much better since deep littering though....

If you can wait until next fri I can send you my lunge line, its bog standard but i dont use it, neither of my horses like being lunged and i dont feel the need for it, so if you can hang on until next fri ill send you mine for free;)
 
Ayla84 said:
Straw is the better option, my girls munched on it so i sprayed it..... i deep litter, take poohs out daily and the wet once every two weeks, i use a bale a week between two stables to top up and one of my girls is a foul messy pig!!! she somehow manages to pooh on top but dig it to a lower layer and they cover it :D:D much better since deep littering though....

If you can wait until next fri I can send you my lunge line, its bog standard but i dont use it, neither of my horses like being lunged and i dont feel the need for it, so if you can hang on until next fri ill send you mine for free;)
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hmm thanks :)
and sorry late reply :) reeally? ;) thanks x
 
DH1, that was unnecessary and un called for. You have no idea what goes on in the OP's family (it may be that the saddle was a present for all you know). Quite a few parents I know (not mine I hasten to add) are happy to spend more on items they believe are necessary but a lunge line, I can see a few parents ask, why not just use a lead rein or let them loose in the school? Just because you and I are horsey do not judge when someone with non horsey parents puts up a post that doesn't make sense to you. Trust me non-horsey parents do not always make sense to horsey children either :) (not mine I hasten to add again!!!)

OP. I quite like Bedmax but I would look at how you're mucking out. I tend to find that once you have skipped out the worst from the top of the bed, scraped back the dry where the wet is and removed that, throwing up all the bedding into the walls and then tossing the bedding in the banks and picking up any muck that falls through does a really good job and seems to preserve more bedding. Ringworm is not the end of the world, I've had a horse with it to and although you hate it initially it becomes routine pretty soon and then it's cleared. Good luck :)
 
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