berefoot shoeing do you agree or disagree???

fuzzle said:
Hi everyone, there is alady in my area that is doing berefoot shoeing well trimming? i spoke to her and she was very confident and yes it made sense, so i thought i would ask my farrier what he thought yes the replie NOT HAPPY!!! He said that if you want to try berefoot then he would help me with it and monitor my horses feet for me and if it didn t work out then we would go back to shoes, i thought that was really fare deal!!!!! when i asked my farrier why he was so upset about these barefoot trimmers he said it took him years of hard work to be a qualified farrier which in GB they are very stricked!!!!!! not only trained to be doing the shoeing but years of studying the horses foot and how it works and lameness working with vets and corrective shoeing, now it made sense i did my research and it only takes 3months for a barefoot trimmer to be qualified!!!! that anserwed my question too!!! who do i choose my own farrier with years of experience to someone who done a quick course.. my farrier always comes first!!!!! and is heaps cheaper too!!!!

If you are tempted by anyone regarding barefoot trimming speak to your own farrier whom you have already i was so taken in by it but im sooooooo
glad that i stayed with the farrier i have had for many many years!!!!!!!!
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Well my partner is a barefoot trimmer and his qualification took three years!! He did everything a farrier would learn bar putting the shoe on! he does remiedial work with the vets for barefoot horses and helps shod horses make the transition there are some micky mouse courses out there though!!!!
 
Sorry guido16 but goldenstar is right, it obviously means a farrier with no footwear putting shoes on a horse. Most farriers are against this as its a health & safety risk & a barefoot farrier isn't insured if he gets broken toes as a result of his casual attitude to footwear. Go back to your angle grinder guido!
 
Lets not be unfair. I disagree with barefoot shoeing personally... could cause a serious injury and frostbite in winter.


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But surely if the farrier gets his dinner analysed & supplements his meals accordingly his feet will harden up to frostbite. Shoeing in just socks is a nambypamby sit on the fence attitude.
 
I too disagree with barefoot shoeing on the grounds of the injury it could case to the person doing the shoeing!
 
littlelegs said:
But surely if the farrier gets his dinner analysed & supplements his meals accordingly his feet will harden up to frostbite. Shoeing in just socks is a nambypamby sit on the fence attitude.
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There is little research about diet for barefoot farriers but some anecdotal evidence that rubbing their soles with tiger balm may help in the transitional period as they get used to being barefoot socks can also be used when on stoney yards,
 
Goldenstar said:
There is little research about diet for barefoot farriers but some anecdotal evidence that rubbing their soles with tiger balm may help in the transitional period as they get used to being barefoot socks can also be used when on stoney yards,
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How can you make such ridiculous claims???:eek:

Surely the tiger balm will burn the foot, as it's soo strong:mad::mad:;)
 
littlelegs said:
Sorry guido16 but goldenstar is right, it obviously means a farrier with no footwear putting shoes on a horse. Most farriers are against this as its a health & safety risk & a barefoot farrier isn't insured if he gets broken toes as a result of his casual attitude to footwear. Go back to your angle grinder guido!
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You are right and I clearly see where the H&S issues arise.
I wonder if they are allowed to wear leg warmers.....

goes off to sharpen angle grinder..........
 
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I agree with littlelegs - socks will only increase concussion and prevent the feet from functioning as they have evolved to. Feed the farrier's feet from the inside!

If you rub the tiger balm on his ankles, though, it will speed up foot growth.
 
Sorry guys but let's strive for accuracy here.

Berefoot refers to Beer or Barley foot which came into use pre Saxon era.

Whilst the origin is lost in the mists of time (or alcohol) it is thought to have come about when farm labourers drank too much of the local (and not very good) beer and got gout or similar type problems.

So the local lords realising that sore footed workers were not very productive took to supplying them with shoes. Usually made from from old sack cloth or leather. Sometimes they put iron studs to improve wear and grip, but they tended to find these caused as many problems as they solved.

So there you go - berefoot shoeing

Putting shoes on farm labourers who drank the local sauce rather too often. :-)
 
fuzzle said:
If you are tempted by anyone regarding barefoot trimming speak to your own farrier whom you have already i was so taken in by it but im sooooooo
glad that i stayed with the farrier i have had for many many years!!!!!!!!
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Oh good for you. Of course you are just as likely to be "taken in" by your farrier. :D :rolleyes:
 
LucyPriory said:
Sorry guys but let's strive for accuracy here.

Berefoot refers to Beer or Barley foot which came into use pre Saxon era.

Whilst the origin is lost in the mists of time (or alcohol) it is thought to have come about when farm labourers drank too much of the local (and not very good) beer and got gout or similar type problems.

So the local lords realising that sore footed workers were not very productive took to supplying them with shoes. Usually made from from old sack cloth or leather. Sometimes they put iron studs to improve wear and grip, but they tended to find these caused as many problems as they solved.

So there you go - berefoot shoeing

Putting shoes on farm labourers who drank the local sauce rather too often. :-)
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Well, in that case I'm definitely against "berefoot" shoeing. :D Mind you, the sauce bit sounds good. :D
 
LucyPriory said:
Sorry guys but let's strive for accuracy here.

Berefoot refers to Beer or Barley foot which came into use pre Saxon era.

Whilst the origin is lost in the mists of time (or alcohol) it is thought to have come about when farm labourers drank too much of the local (and not very good) beer and got gout or similar type problems.

So the local lords realising that sore footed workers were not very productive took to supplying them with shoes. Usually made from from old sack cloth or leather. Sometimes they put iron studs to improve wear and grip, but they tended to find these caused as many problems as they solved.

So there you go - berefoot shoeing

Putting shoes on farm labourers who drank the local sauce rather too often. :-)
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Damn and blast! You beat me to it :D:D:D:D
 
Lucy priory- & I suppose you think tradition makes that ok does it? We used to send kids up chimneys too! (not sure what the relevance of this statement is but it comes into all debates sooner or later so I wanted to get in first)
Guido16- leg warmers are ok, the barefeet farrier posse advocates there use in cold climates.
 
littlelegs said:
Lucy priory- & I suppose you think tradition makes that ok does it? We used to send kids up chimneys too! (not sure what the relevance of this statement is but it comes into all debates sooner or later so I wanted to get in first)
Guido16- leg warmers are ok, the barefeet farrier posse advocates there use in cold climates.
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Umm, are we not meant to send children up chimneys anymore? Oh heck..
 
Oh my word - just thought i'd pop in and have a lurk, but have found my head is all curfuzzled as I have no idea what any of you are talking about now :eek:

so therefore I bid you all farewell as Im off to boil my head instead :D
 
I feel a bit sorry for op if genuine but........

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha very funny replies.

In all seriousness ( and I am sure this has been discussed before) but how much of the training a farrier does is about diet, non shoe wearing horses, does it look at the hoof and how it contracts and the restriction of blood flow I.e some of the more recent research in slow motion. How up to date is the farrier training, does it adapt beyond the traditional? A genuine question as I have no idea what the training involves. I did 3 months doing a management accounting module as part of my psychology and management degree - a management accountant that does not make me! If a farrier only spends a small proportion of time studying barefoot performance and trimming then maybe there is some comparison with trimmers....I am sure someone with more knowledge will know more and correct me!

I love the fact that barefoot debates are so hotly 'discussed' it always makes a good read / giggle. I for one have learnt a lot about hooves, diet and conformation since barefoot has become more popular regardless of whether my horse wears shoes or not.
 
guido16 said:
Umm, are we not meant to send children up chimneys anymore? Oh heck..
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Quite right too.

Modern chimneys tend to be rather small and narrow so the current recommendation is to use toddlers. Any child older than 24 months tends to get stuck.

You can shoe, with the sackcloth/leather berefoot style shoes, if necessary for grip on the modern steel linings.
 
After time the barefoot farriers grow strong hair and skin on their feet it is thought this is where JRR Tolkien got the idea of hobbits.
 
well ive had three horse shod in possibly every different way there is...hot shoeing cold shoeing and barefoot....i can honestly say they were all just happy and sound with all these options....my older two horses which were used mainly for hacking round countryside and dressage maybe a bit of indoor jumping went a while without shoes and were happy until summer when it got quite dry and stony and their feet started getting a bit knocked about by the rocks when hacking so we got them cold shod and they were very very happy and the fit was amazing.

it all depends on the farrier really cold shoeing is possibly harder as the horses foot is shaped to the shoe not the other way around. but i would ask around about the farrier first before changing, all the options are suitable as long as you look after their feet really:)
 
So do I now have to ask my farrier to remove his boots and socks to shoe my horses? Or does he only have to take his boots and socks off to trim the one without shoes? Does he put them back on to shoe the one who is shod all round? Does he wear one boot and one sock to do the mare who only has shoes on the front, or does he wear boots and no socks, or just socks for that one?
 
Let's keep the thread on track......

It's about berefoot shoeing - which traditionally is only done when the labourer is stone old drunk although I guess these days you could use valium.
 
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