Best food for a Czech Wolf.....

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Try these? :)
 
lexiedhb said:
What are your other dogs fed on?
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The Husky is also on the Pedigree and she is fine on it

The Chihuahua and the Chi/Shitzu are on Bakers meaty meals for small dogs...Chi is a fussy eater and this is the only thing we can get him to eat, they were previously on Pedigree dry food with a sachet of soft meat mixed as they wouldn't eat it just dry...maybe because it is crap? :rolleyes:
 
Bakers will literally kill your dog, it has been shown to contain cancer causing agents......... sorry but it is one of the worst. I used to feed wainwrights trays from P@H or skinners kibble (cheap) my boy did well on it bar the wind.....

A dog wont starve itself- put food (of your choice) down for 20 mins, if its not eaten remove- offer it again at the next meal time- repeat, until the little gits eat it :)

Read these if you are against raw

http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-health-nutrition/255727-updated-dry-dog-food-index.html


http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-health-nutrition/194976-wet-dog-food-index.html
 
lexiedhb said:
Bakers will literally kill your dog, it has been shown to contain cancer causing agents......... sorry but it is one of the worst. I used to feed wainwrights trays from P@H or skinners kibble (cheap) my boy did well on it bar the wind.....

A dog wont starve itself- put food (of your choice) down for 20 mins, if its not eaten remove- offer it again at the next meal time- repeat, until the little gits eat it :)

Read these if you are against raw

http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-health-nutrition/255727-updated-dry-dog-food-index.html


http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-health-nutrition/194976-wet-dog-food-index.html
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Yup....tried that, and he didn't eat for over a week. He was brought up on "human food" therefore dog food doesn't appeal to him. I know Bakers is probably worse than Pedigree! Full of sugars and colourings apprently or so I've heard. The only other food he seemed to enjoy was Wagg....:confused: again, crap. But he seems to like the crap ones :rolleyes:
 
I dont like the feel of raw meat maybe I'll stop feeding it and take madam to McDonald's everyday as pedigree is pretty much McDonald's for dogs, to be honest the human macdonalds would probably be better for her lol
 
My dog is a she and she is the one im talking about in my post
All I am meaning is when I decided to get my girl I didn't think about what was best or more convenient for me I thought about my dog I hate the feel of raw meat but still feed it I have strict vegan friends who also feed their dogs raw because its what they were weaned on to
Pedigree is one of the worst foods for dogs of these type
 
RCP Equestrian said:
... I have never said Pedigree is good...he's on it as a last resort, also the reason why I have posted the question, reason being I don't want to keep him on it
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but you are feeding your husky it too?

look up the decent dry food (if you want to feed dry) and feed them all the same decent stuff rather than stuff that could possibly put them in the ground early.

i used to feed mine stuff and asked for advice on here it turned out what i was feeding was c**p so guess what i changed what i fed them.

it is not tricky and there are no catches-they will eat what you put down if you keep putting the same type of food down day after day they will eventually eat it
 
Cyrus said:
My dog is a she and she is the one im talking about in my post
All I am meaning is when I decided to get my girl I didn't think about what was best or more convenient for me I thought about my dog I hate the feel of raw meat but still feed it I have strict vegan friends who also feed their dogs raw because its what they were weaned on to
Pedigree is one of the worst foods for dogs of these type
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Again, I am well aware Pedigree is no good which is why I am asking the question of what food will be better for him. If you read an earlier post he was picky with the raw meat and wouldn't eat it all, he was more interested in the other dogs food which is why I weaned him off it and on to a dry food which he gobbles down and enjoys a lot more, it just doesnt come out the other end very well...so, therefore I am looking for a raw meat-a-like dry food or something along those lines. So before you have a sarcastic blow I am not thinking of myself and a convenient way to feed him (in an ideal world I would love them all to be on the same food) but like I said earlier he is a different type of dog to the others and if he requires a different food so be it, I'm trying to find whats best for him.
 
RCP Equestrian said:
Again, I am well aware Pedigree is no good which is why I am asking the question of what food will be better for him. If you read an earlier post he was picky with the raw meat and wouldn't eat it all, he was more interested in the other dogs food which is why I weaned him off it and on to a dry food which he gobbles down and enjoys a lot more, it just doesnt come out the other end very well...so, therefore I am looking for a raw meat-a-like dry food or something along those lines. So before you have a sarcastic blow I am not thinking of myself and a convenient way to feed him (in an ideal world I would love them all to be on the same food) but like I said earlier he is a different type of dog to the others and if he requires a different food so be it, I'm trying to find whats best for him.
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so put them all on raw, problem solved
 
Jools1234 said:
but you are feeding your husky it too?

look up the decent dry food (if you want to feed dry) and feed them all the same decent stuff rather than stuff that could possibly put them in the ground early.

i used to feed mine stuff and asked for advice on here it turned out what i was feeding was c**p so guess what i changed what i fed them.

it is not tricky and there are no catches-they will eat what you put down if you keep putting the same type of food down day after day they will eventually eat it
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Yes she is also on the Pedigree too but ideally they could both go on to the same food. Its just "something better than nothing" really at the moment.

Had a few suggestions on here so its just a case of trial and error really!
 
Hi

There could be a few ingredients in the pedigree dog food that could be causing your pup to have such badly formed stools. Could be too much feeding and food not being absorbed properly or ingredients in the Pedigree dog food.

Ingredients such a cereals, beet plup, brewers yeast are just fillers and cheap versions of vegetable related protien designed to bulk up not only the food but the protien levels of the food as a whole whilst reducing the more expensive meat based protiens which are much better quality protien source for dogs. There is good protien and bad protien and most of the major brands stuff their dog food full of the bad (vegetable) protein. Definately profit before welfare!

I see that you have had a look at Fish4Dogs which on the whole is a decent food although some of them do contain beet pulp, brewers years and one of them contain up to 22% pea flour! Whats a dog doing eating that amount of peas?? So be careful which one you purchase and read the ingredients list on the back.

If you have already bought some and your dogs are doing well on it, great, but if you havent bought any yet could I suggest Eden Pet Foods. They are just 2pounds more expensive but you get 15Kg rather than 12Kg and you tend to feed them less of it as it is packed full of whole meat protein and oily fish. (doesnt smell either)

The owners of the dog food have a group on FB that you can join and also you can contact them directly. They have Chi's and Leonbergers I believe. The great things about their food is that it is the closest thing you will get to the raw feeding in kibble form and is holistic. The owner is a vet nutritionist and they customer service is second to none.

You can order small sample bags to try out on your dog and if they like it great if not at least you havent got a 15kg sack to get rid of. They also do 3 different kibble sizes, small, medium and large.

I have read some amazing stories on their FB page about dogs that prior to eating Eden had suffered from sores/wet eczema, tear stains, poor weight control, soft squishy stools and one in perticular that has an auto immune disease that since being on Eden had made tremendous progress in putting on weight and getting back to his old self before his illness. The reports really do speak for themselves.

But like I said contact those at Eden they are fab to talk too and have so much more information than I can possibly give.

Good luck and hopefully what ever food you decide to give your dog, hope his backside sorts itself out.

http://edenpetfoods.com/index.html
 
Jools1234 said:
how long have you had the wolf/dog? how many different foods have you tried? bare with me this is leading somewhere:D
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Had him about 2/3 months now? Tried him on the raw meat, Wagg (didn't like the colourings in it, poos were orange :confused: ) another dry food which I can't remember the name of (doh) but his poos went worse and now the Pedigree.

I know changing his food isn't going to help overnight and changing isn't good for them anyway! Would rather find a good decent food for him as soon as possible as it obviously isn't agreeing with him, even though he likes whatever he gets lol and his poops aren't the most pleasant to pick up! :p
 
RichmondPark said:
Hi

There could be a few ingredients in the pedigree dog food that could be causing your pup to have such badly formed stools. Could be too much feeding and food not being absorbed properly or ingredients in the Pedigree dog food.

Ingredients such a cereals, beet plup, brewers yeast are just fillers and cheap versions of vegetable related protien designed to bulk up not only the food but the protien levels of the food as a whole whilst reducing the more expensive meat based protiens which are much better quality protien source for dogs. There is good protien and bad protien and most of the major brands stuff their dog food full of the bad (vegetable) protein. Definately profit before welfare!

I see that you have had a look at Fish4Dogs which on the whole is a decent food although some of them do contain beet pulp, brewers years and one of them contain up to 22% pea flour! Whats a dog doing eating that amount of peas?? So be careful which one you purchase and read the ingredients list on the back.

If you have already bought some and your dogs are doing well on it, great, but if you havent bought any yet could I suggest Eden Pet Foods. They are just 2pounds more expensive but you get 15Kg rather than 12Kg and you tend to feed them less of it as it is packed full of whole meat protein and oily fish. (doesnt smell either)

The owners of the dog food have a group on FB that you can join and also you can contact them directly. They have Chi's and Leonbergers I believe. The great things about their food is that it is the closest thing you will get to the raw feeding in kibble form and is holistic. The owner is a vet nutritionist and they customer service is second to none.

You can order small sample bags to try out on your dog and if they like it great if not at least you havent got a 15kg sack to get rid of. They also do 3 different kibble sizes, small, medium and large.

I have read some amazing stories on their FB page about dogs that prior to eating Eden had suffered from sores/wet eczema, tear stains, poor weight control, soft squishy stools and one in perticular that has an auto immune disease that since being on Eden had made tremendous progress in putting on weight and getting back to his old self before his illness. The reports really do speak for themselves.

But like I said contact those at Eden they are fab to talk too and have so much more information than I can possibly give.

Good luck and hopefully what ever food you decide to give your dog, hope his backside sorts itself out.

http://edenpetfoods.com/index.html
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Great thanks for that! I'm on their website now so I will get in touch with them. If all of the dogs can go on it that would be a bonus so a sample bag would be fab to try them all with it.

Will give it a go :)
 
Let us know how you get on especially with the fussy Chi as quite a fair few fussy eaters go nuts for this food including my own dog who gets it now and again along with raw.
 
I would recommend Fish4Dogs, but the puppy food does smell quite fishy so if you are sensitive to smell it might not be suitable. It is however a very good feed, I reared my litter last year on it, and all the puppy owners kept their pups on it (I did recommend a couple of other foods on the diet sheet, but I am afraid I also mentioned some not to touch:o). At 10 months they are all now changing to an adult food, I have suggested Skinners Duck & rice as an alternative but I think most are happy with the Fish4dogs. Great customer service from them by the way, they even helped one owner source a supplier in Spain!
If you wanted to keep him on a raw type diet, and although I have no experience of wolfdogs and husky types I have heard it is best for them, you could always try Nature Diet or Natural Instinct.
 
blackcob said:
My suggestion would be to return to the raw diet, northern/spitzy/husky types tend to do poorly on grain based food.
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Since both Norwegian Buhunds (which I used to own) and Finnish Lapphunds (have 3 now) are definitely spitzy breeds, I wanted to say that at least these two spitz breeds are known as very good doers and that I've not heard anything about them tending to do poorly on grain based food.


I'm happy with feeding my bitches the dry food that I've chosen, of a small, local brand, and I hope RCP Equestrian finds a food, raw, dry or wet, that works for her and her dog/dogs.

:)
 
CaveCanem said:
Wow, if I was a breeder who had weaned a puppy onto raw I'd be annoyed that he'd been switched onto Pedigree.

Raw may smell a but but it is infinitely better than Pedigree! Think of your dog's welfare rather than your nose. The runny poos should be telling you something - and you've tried 'everything'? How many times have you changed his food at 14 weeks?

It's a dog bred to look like a wolf, with possibly some wolf DNA, not an actual wolf by the way, otherwise you'd need a license to keep it :)

Suggest you get yourself to a good training class or locate someone knowledgeable about dogs of this breed, you may need a little experienced guidance :)
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As a breeder who keeps her dogs and puppies entirely on raw I would be spitting feathers if someone promptly undid my hard work by changing to a rubbish diet from the best a pup can have.I have seen far too many puppies ruined like this,and would go so far as to refuse a sale if a buyer could not be arsed to follow the prescribed diet sheet.
 
Please read the links on food indexes you were given.

Pedigree, Wagg and Bakers and Chappie dry all contain carcinogenic (cancer causing) ingredients. Regardless of how fussy your chi is, I'd be switching that one. And I certainly wouldn't be funding a company that spends more on advertising than putting decent ingredients into their food.

Close to natural if such a thing can happen with kibble are Orijen, Acana, Fish4dogs.

I had no freezer room so I bought one and put it in the shed. A £60 order lasts three dogs over two months.

If you want any help with raw, read the raw link Neversaynever posted. I and many others helped write it or got advice from it. You oly need the first few pages.
 
FinnishLapphund said:
Since both Norwegian Buhunds (which I used to own) and Finnish Lapphunds (have 3 now) are definitely spitzy breeds, I wanted to say that at least these two spitz breeds are known as very good doers and that I've not heard anything about them tending to do poorly on grain based food.
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Not so much poorly as not keeping weight on but things like poorer coat condition, itchiness, hot spots, runny eyes/tear staining and definitely more tartar on the teeth. Then again I observe this in many other breeds on diets like Pedigree and Bakers. :o Perhaps I should have narrowed it down to sibes, mals and inuit-y type things, spitzy things is maybe too broad.
 
We tried our youngest Spin on several different complete foods, came being fed jwb, she was loose on all. Only when we changed her to raw did the loose poo stop, she hasn't looked back, we put both dogs onto raw at the same time, mainly get chicken plus tinned sardines a couple of times a week and tripe frozen in their kongs and a few veggies.
 
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