best low cal/low sugar chaff?

Please explain how it is necessary for someone whose horse is such a good doer to require a chaff at all?? Surely a flap of hay would do the trick.

I am often amazed at how many people genuinely believe their horses are intolerant to sugar/molasses/beet/oats etc when the amount of these substances that a horse actually consumes is negligible. If your horse cannot eat grass or hay then I will believe that it is intolerant....theres far more 'sugar' in that than there ever is in a bag of feed.
 
fatpiggy, that sounds like just the thing! Did you just get it from your local feed merchants? Will have to ask around.
 
MochaDun - two posts in a month amongst lots of other different posts doesn't make you a suspect for stealth marketing!
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As you rightly say, lots of people have their own favourite brands that they recommend, but they will post about lots of other things as well. However, when about 75% or more of someone's posts recommend a particular brand then alarm bells start to ring!
 
Hi Spaniel,
She just has it as something to add her magnesium, brewers yeast and seaweed to. Our grazing isn't rich enough in the minerals she needs.
Unfortunatly even the sugar in the grass is enough to have a rather negative effect! Any grass spurt sends my legendary safe as houses hack totally up the wall!
 
hi i use a cup of damp bran & a handfull of readygrass to give my lad his supplements
i dont work for readygrass but if they want to send me any free samples then just PM me!
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I picked up some bags of Badminton Horse Feeds Easy Rider, Ultra Grass and Alfa Lite last weekend - all three molasses free and the horses really seem to like them... great value for money too. My only issue is my nearest stockist is 15 miles drive, which is a pain but I'm going to see if my local feed store will get it in for me. Definitely a good solution for those of us looking for molasses free chops at reasonable prices.
 
Ive just started my pony on Top Chop lite instead of Happy Hoof just because it has no mollasses and she can be a bit of a piggy in the summer.

She seems to like it and it smells lovely. Its also chopped short and it soft like Happy Hoof.

I personally love Happy Hoof but thought I would give this a go as she is looking good at the moment and I would like to keep it that way which means her diet starts now before the grass comes through!

I would also be interested to know the nutritional analysis if anyone has that info? The bag does not say although I thought they had to. Will email them and ask too.
 
Thought I woukd just say, if anyone on this forum either posting or lurking works for a feed company, could you please point them to the number of threads asking about molasses in feed. The fact we have these long discussions is because there are not many molasses free feeds out there and often you can't find the complete ingredients except on the white paper on the bag.

How about list of ingredients (with %) and nutritional analysis on your websites.
 
A lot of the companies have the nutritional analysis on their websites - ie % of protein, fibre, oil etc plus the calorie count (MJDE/kg). However, not many have the ingredients on there, although I know Baileys do and Dengie have the ingredients of most of their range. Some companies do put the starch content on their sites (such as Spillers) but not the sugar content (although I have suggested it to Spillers and they are considering it).

One of the worst culprits is Top Spec as they have hardly any information on their site! They don't even have the MJDE/kg for Top Chop Lite which would be helpful as they say it is specifically for animals who need their weight controlling. I have emailed them about queries in the past and suggested they put more information on the website but they say they are worried about people trying to copy their formulation. What a stupid thing to say - if someone was that keen to copy them they would just look at the labels in the feedshop and jot the ingredients down from that!

So feed companies, take note - consumers would like to see ALL of the following information on your websites:

% of protein, oil, fibre, sugar and starch
Calorie count (MJDE/kg)
Full ingredients list
 
Thanks for posting that SB09 - now if they can put the MJDE/kg on their competition page, why can't they put it on the actual info page for the product! I think they need to get their website a bit more organised! They have a good range of products but it is hard to find all the info you need.
 
I have use falcon feeds in the past and have recommended them several times on here. Just because its an unusual brand doesn't make whoever recommends them a stealth marketer...
 
I no longer feed hifi lite to my Lami shetland nor happy hoof or hoofkind.

A few weeks ago I posted on here that my shetland has a bad lami attack and found a lump of what looked like mollasses (half the size of a brick!) in the bottom of the bag (search for Hoofkind post).

With the advice from forum readers I now use Top chop lite and fast fibre. You need to look at the very small label which is usually stitched to the feed bags and you will be surprised with the amount of sugar/starch content - I was.

I have just received my Greengrass from Simple Systems which was also recommended for my other boys as well. Lucie stalks is also recommended but my shetland is not overweight.

I hope this helps - don't forget to read the small ingredients label.
 
Dodson and Horrell Fibergy is a good chaff to try and easily available, even if its a special order. I had a molasses intolerant pony and this worked very well for him where many many others sent him loopy.

I use oil coated alfalfa chops now to keep away from the molasses.
 
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