Beware Dachshund dog for sale

[Birker2020]

My former work colleague from my last job has text me to say she has had a heartbreaking day. She collected a five month Dachshund dog yesterday from a breeder and on getting it home realised it wasn't right so took it to the vets who said not only had it got a hernia it was also whimpering in pain with spine and hip issues. Vet says it needs to be pts. So she has taken the dog back to the breeder and got her money back.

Now I'm not here to argue to wrongs and rights of her actions as I know what I would have done but I'm not her and she's done what she felt was best in her situation. But what I'm trying to do is ensure no one else has the misfortune of buying this dog.

So please don't buy a 5 month old dachshund that is this colour. I can't give more details I'm afraid as I honestly don't know more.

I'm so hoping the breeder has the dog pts but suspect it will be sold on. So many disgusting unscrupulous breeders out there trying to make a quick buck.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

Poor little dog! Perhaps your colleague could report the breeder to RSPCA/Animal Health Dept at LA, as a matter of urgency.

 

[Jenko109]

Disgusted.

That poor puppy.

 

[JBM]

I hope karma gets everyone in that story
That pup deserved better
I hope someone is willing to do the right thing

 

[Birker2020]

Apparently the dog in question was a rare colour so fetched a lot more money. I suspect the dog has been inbred to cause such issues. Its heartbreaking, I'm afraid I would have taken the loss, got a full vet examination and report, backed up with xrays all of which could have been done after the dog was put to sleep and was no longer suffering. Then small claims court.

But we are all different and I expect my ex work colleague wasn't thinking clearly.

 

[Widgeon]

I think these posts are a bit hard on the colleague - we don't know what she paid for the dog and not everyone can afford to just lose a large amount of money like that. She must have been extremely shocked and distressed and that's not a great place to be making decisions from. Additionally, from personal experience, it's not always as easy as it should be to "just" go through the small claims court.

Reporting the breeder to the RSPCA (and what about Trading Standards? I know they're a bit hopeless but it clearly wasn't "fit for purpose") seems like the best course of action. That way, if they do try to sell it on, perhaps something can be done.

 

[MurphysMinder]

Apparently the dog in question was a rare colour so fetched a lot more money. I suspect the dog has been inbred to cause such issues. Its heartbreaking, I'm afraid I would have taken the loss, got a full vet examination and report, backed up with xrays all of which could have been done after the dog was put to sleep and was no longer suffering. Then small claims court.

But we are all different and I expect my ex work colleague wasn't thinking clearly.

I'm a bit confused (not unusual), is that photo you have posted the dogs colour , cos if so that's not rare its a red which is a fairly common colour. If by any miracle the breeder was licensed then maybe a complaint to the council, doubt RSPCA will do much. I am afraid I don't have much sympathy now for people who buy pups with issues like this, surely there is enough information out there as to how to find a reputable breeder.

Edited to say it probably wouldn't need to be inbred to have spine issues, I read that around 20% of all dachsies have IVDD.

 

[Jenko109]

Edited to say it probably wouldn't need to be inbred to have spine issues, I read that around 20% of all dachsies have IVDD.

I can quite believe it.

I had to take my late whippet to Southern Counties Vet Specialists during covid.

There were THREE of these dogs in the car park, unable to walk. Awful.

 

[Birker2020]

I can quite believe it.

I had to take my late whippet to Southern Counties Vet Specialists during covid.

There were THREE of these dogs in the car park, unable to walk. Awful.

Yep my vet physio friend rehabbed her clients dachshund that was unable to walk and was paralysed by swimming it in her clients bath for hydrotherapy.

The dog went on to make a full recovery.

 

[Birker2020]

I'm a bit confused (not unusual), is that photo you have posted the dogs colour , cos if so that's not rare its a red which is a fairly common colour. If by any miracle the breeder was licensed then maybe a complaint to the council, doubt RSPCA will do much. I am afraid I don't have much sympathy now for people who buy pups with issues like this, surely there is enough information out there as to how to find a reputable breeder.

Edited to say it probably wouldn't need to be inbred to have spine issues, I read that around 20% of all dachsies have IVDD.

I'm not sure, she said it was a rare colour to me, it had some sort of dilute gene in it. I feel really sorry for her tbh.

Although I did point out at the time before she bought it that I thought it was weird how the breeder hadn't sold it after 5 months when it was the last one in the litter and all its siblings had gone. But I never really held much significance to that.

Heartbreaking for all.

 

[Birker2020]

I think these posts are a bit hard on the colleague - we don't know what she paid for the dog and not everyone can afford to just lose a large amount of money like that. She must have been extremely shocked and distressed and that's not a great place to be making decisions from.

She was very much so

 

[AdorableAlice]

Do you know which county the breeder is trading in.

 

[honetpot]

We have a dilute, he is now neutered. My daughter bought him from a 'family' home, visited beforehand, he seemed to be living in a family home, thought he was about a year old, good with children, being rehomed because they were moving to rented which didn't allow dogs.
Collected him and paid, and them the fun began. He had obviously been kenneled and had not lived in a house, and had seperation anxiety, and scent marked all over, wouldn't settle and howled like someone was standing on him, constantly. My daughter crying on the phone, so he was dropped off with at 01.00 as she had to work and he was driving her husband into a state. She rang the previous owner, who would not take him back, and although not a breeder, now had a bitch which was never mentioned on Pets4Home. So we think he was transported to the 'home' for viewing.
After looking through his paperwork we found an invoice for chipping four puppies so we think he was used as a stud dog, had a litter and then sold on. He was on the cheapest dog food, so although he was not thin, he did not look healthy, and when the vet checked him he teeth that looked older than his age. Fortunately she did not find anything wrong with him.
A high meat dog food with no filler, bones to chew and excercise has made him in to about the fitest dog you will ever see, at his last vet check his teeth had cleaned up, and personality wise he is just about a normal dog, its taken over a year.
When you take him anywhere he stands out, he is almost metallic grey, so we get lots of attention, and I can understand why people are drawn to them, and just think the colour has no realation to the dogs health, even the vet I saw was not really switched on about the possible health issues.
As he was preloved my daughter did not pay the £2.5k that some of these dilute puppies were going for,you can not KC them, but if your friend paid over £1500, I have not looked at the going rate recently, I can understand her taking him back. Some of the breeders do not get their puppies chipped by a vet, our dog wasn't, and so they never get vet health checked, so if not been chipped and vaccinated by a vet I would be concerned.
My daughter after watching me buy horses and ponies thought she could spot anything fishy, but she was fooled. Afterwards she said, why did he not have any of his own food or things with him, and he did not smell like the house he had been in.
I bought a kitten two months ago, I got food, when she was last wormed and a written summary.

If your friend thinks they are breeder she could ring HMRC and the council to see if they are registered, cost her nothing and will put the wind up them.

 

[Clodagh]

I would have taken him back to the breeder as well. Why donate them the money? She was lucky to get a refund.
But I wouldn’t buy a random puppy from the internet anyway.
I’d certainly report the breeder wherever possible.

 

[ycbm]

I would have taken him back to the breeder as well. Why donate them the money? She was lucky to get a refund.
But I wouldn’t buy a random puppy from the internet anyway.
I’d certainly report the breeder wherever possible.

I like to think that I would have put the puppy down after getting a second opinion from another vet to shore up my case, and then sued her for the cost of the puppy and the vets.
.

 

[stormox]

Apparently the dog in question was a rare colour so fetched a lot more money. I suspect the dog has been inbred to cause such issues. Its heartbreaking, I'm afraid I would have taken the loss, got a full vet examination and report, backed up with xrays all of which could have been done after the dog was put to sleep and was no longer suffering. Then small claims court.

But we are all different and I expect my ex work colleague wasn't thinking clearly.

Why let the breeder profit from irresponsible breeding?? It's the same as dealers selling dodgy horses and profiting.

 

[JBM]

I would’ve got the vet to get everything wrong in writing and her recommendation for pts
The pup would’ve been pts as it’s cruel not to in that situation.
I think because these problems are internal people can ignore them easier but if it was something visual more people would be inclined to do the right thing
You can sue and get your money back after the poor pup isn’t suffering any longer
The breeder clearly isn’t going to put the pup down

 

[Landcruiser]

Yep my vet physio friend rehabbed her clients dachshund that was unable to walk and was paralysed by swimming it in her clients bath for hydrotherapy.

The dog went on to make a full recovery.

For now.
Honestly, the laws of physics dictate that a large percentage of dachshunds are going to "fail" in the back department...and they do, with distressing regularity. We see them at the vets as cute puppies, and we KNOW that a percentage of those happy new owners are going to have (expensive) heartbreak sooner or later. One of our nurses has one...and she's going through it with hers, thankfully he's ok for the moment but hasn't been and won't be, most likely.

 

[Birker2020]

For now.
Honestly, the laws of physics dictate that a large percentage of dachshunds are going to "fail" in the back department...and they do, with distressing regularity. We see them at the vets as cute puppies, and we KNOW that a percentage of those happy new owners are going to have (expensive) heartbreak sooner or later. One of our nurses has one...and she's going through it with hers, thankfully he's ok for the moment but hasn't been and won't be, most likely.

Well it was about 12 years ago and the dog ran around the yard for a couple of years after until it died of an unrelated issue.

I found it incredible that it gone from completely immobile on it's back end to the amazing outcome weeks later. It wasn't a quick fix by any means and the vet was also involved in its recovery in some way but it was the swimming that really helped.

I can quite believe it's a common occurrence anything with a long back has a weaker back, it's like horses with longer necks are more prevalent to CVM.

 

[ycbm]

I've read reliable sources that the rate of spine injury in dachshunds is 25%. If that's true then you have to question whether it's ethical to continue to breed them.
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[Clodagh]

It’s the obsession with longer and lower isn’t it. Humans are stupid and showing encourages extremes.

 

[Widgeon]

I prefer the German bred ones - they seem to breed them shorter and chunkier.

 

[Clodagh]

It’s really weird isn’t it that we put a rosette above our animal’s health? Bizarre really.

 

[Birker2020]

We have a dilute, he is now neutered. My daughter bought him from a 'family' home, visited beforehand, he seemed to be living in a family home, thought he was about a year old, good with children, being rehomed because they were moving to rented which didn't allow dogs.
Collected him and paid, and them the fun began. He had obviously been kenneled and had not lived in a house, and had seperation anxiety, and scent marked all over, wouldn't settle and howled like someone was standing on him, constantly. My daughter crying on the phone, so he was dropped off with at 01.00 as she had to work and he was driving her husband into a state. She rang the previous owner, who would not take him back, and although not a breeder, now had a bitch which was never mentioned on Pets4Home. So we think he was transported to the 'home' for viewing.
After looking through his paperwork we found an invoice for chipping four puppies so we think he was used as a stud dog, had a litter and then sold on. He was on the cheapest dog food, so although he was not thin, he did not look healthy, and when the vet checked him he teeth that looked older than his age. Fortunately she did not find anything wrong with him.
A high meat dog food with no filler, bones to chew and excercise has made him in to about the fitest dog you will ever see, at his last vet check his teeth had cleaned up, and personality wise he is just about a normal dog, its taken over a year.
When you take him anywhere he stands out, he is almost metallic grey, so we get lots of attention, and I can understand why people are drawn to them, and just think the colour has no realation to the dogs health, even the vet I saw was not really switched on about the possible health issues.
As he was preloved my daughter did not pay the £2.5k that some of these dilute puppies were going for,you can not KC them, but if your friend paid over £1500, I have not looked at the going rate recently, I can understand her taking him back. Some of the breeders do not get their puppies chipped by a vet, our dog wasn't, and so they never get vet health checked, so if not been chipped and vaccinated by a vet I would be concerned.
My daughter after watching me buy horses and ponies thought she could spot anything fishy, but she was fooled. Afterwards she said, why did he not have any of his own food or things with him, and he did not smell like the house he had been in.
I bought a kitten two months ago, I got food, when she was last wormed and a written summary.

If your friend thinks they are breeder she could ring HMRC and the council to see if they are registered, cost her nothing and will put the wind up them.

He hadn't been chipped, the chip was in her name. He was 5 months old and I asked her why he'd not been sold and the others had been and she said for some reason he'd been overlooked. But it obviously makes sense now.

 

[CorvusCorax]

He hadn't been chipped, the chip was in her name. He was 5 months old and I asked her why he'd not been sold and the others had been and she said for some reason he'd been overlooked. But it obviously makes sense now.

I don't understand, chipped or not chipped? Did your friend get him chipped the day after she bought him while she was at the vets getting all the other stuff diagnosed?

It's been illegal to sell a dog with no chip in England and Wales since 2016 or so, buyer beware and all that

 

[Birker2020]

I don't understand, chipped or not chipped? Did your friend get him chipped the day after she bought him while she was at the vets getting all the other stuff diagnosed?

It's been illegal to sell a dog with no chip in England and Wales since 2016 or so, buyer beware and all that

I don't know I'm afraid. She said she'd taken the dog back and I said (when I say 'said' I actually mean 'said' on teams chat) "what if the dealer tries to sell him?" and she said "he's chipped with my details" so I'm not sure.

TBH I didn't like to press for details, it was just all very quick from picking him up to taking him back and she was very upset. It must have been heartbreaking not knowing what to do for the best.