BHS Magazine:fuller figure riders

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I do wish this could just be treated as a welfare issue - same as if we were discussing how much weight a pack-pony should be asked to carry. It's a shame that all sorts of anxieties about fat and body image and so on have to get in the way of what should be a simple welfare question.



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hallelujah, very well said! all you overweight people-its not about you, its about your horse and they couldnt give 2 figs about your food issues!!!!!!!!
 
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Why is she small-minded? Maybe I am stupid, but I think she is talking a lot of sense about her situation. She's taken the time to analyse what she does and she has made decisions to alter the way she leads her life. Sounds like a pretty big deal to me.
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Anyway I say well done to Annie. Is it not PC to say "well done you've lost weight"? I think Annie has done great and if her horse was her inspiration then I think that is admirable. Why put her down?
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QUE??? what?? eh??? Put who down?? when?? I too am battling the bulgde having shed 2.5stone since march I know its not an easy thing to do... and even if you are seriously good, dont eat sh:te, and exercise it takes FOREVER... and having the determination to do something about it yes is a MASSIVE deal.... ..... I still probably have 4 stone to go.......

BUT that doesnt mean that the horse I share is incapable of carrying me, doesnt mean im not going to ride until I am 12/10/6 stone no matter what is sposed to be "acceptable"!
 
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Oh holy moly.... not again..... I think that if a horse is capable of carrying 12/13/14/15/20 stone and the rider is balanced, and rides well then I really dont have a problem with it at all. I would rather the horse have a slightly heavier rider, that rode light, and well, than a lighter rider who rode heavily with "bad" hands, and was generally pants!!

[/ QUOTE ] What a breath of fresh air your reply is
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I should of just left it there really... thanks stella!!
 
oh well not getting involved, I am the most hated type!! Skinny cow, can eat what I like and I struggle to put ON weight...not all its cracked up to be.

As for heavier riders, so long as the horse suits I think its fair enough, 12 stone is a bit silly as most solid men however fit are going to be over this weight, however size 26 depends on the weight! she may be really short and round and ok to ride something heavier.

For my old 27 year old 16.1 tbx I wouldnt let over 12 stone on him, no way, but for the younger irish draught, he could easily do 14/15 stone comfortably, although not sure he would appreciate it!

All depends on the horse, rider, ability of rider etc etc, but I do believe there are issues such as thyroid, diabetes etc that affect some peoples weight.
 
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Oh holy moly.... not again..... I think that if a horse is capable of carrying 12/13/14/15/20 stone and the rider is balanced, and rides well then I really dont have a problem with it at all. I would rather the horse have a slightly heavier rider, that rode light, and well, than a lighter rider who rode heavily with "bad" hands, and was generally pants!!

[/ QUOTE ] What a breath of fresh air your reply is
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I should of just left it there really... thanks stella!!

[/ QUOTE ] I intended to leave it at my first comment too, but Grrrr .....!
 
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oh well not getting involved, I am the most hated type!! Skinny cow, can eat what I like and I struggle to put ON weight...not all its cracked up to be.

As for heavier riders, so long as the horse suits I think its fair enough, 12 stone is a bit silly as most solid men however fit are going to be over this weight, however size 26 depends on the weight! she may be really short and round and ok to ride something heavier.

For my old 27 year old 16.1 tbx I wouldnt let over 12 stone on him, no way, but for the younger irish draught, he could easily do 14/15 stone comfortably, although not sure he would appreciate it!

All depends on the horse, rider, ability of rider etc etc, but I do believe there are issues such as thyroid, diabetes etc that affect some peoples weight.

[/ QUOTE ] How could you be hated when you write such a well balanced reply? A bit jealous yes, but hate you - not at all
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Absolutely - if the crap isn't in the house, you won't be tempted to eat it. I buy a lot of oranges, because for some reason they appease junk cravings (in me, anyway) and the fiddliness of peeling them is good displacement activity.

Yes, I'd much rather stuff down a giant bag of crisps, but if all there is to eat is an orange, if I am sufficiently hungry i eat it. If I really won't eat the orange, i'm obviously not hungry anyway.

PS. i am not perfect and not trying to imply that I am. i eat far too many crisps and other junk and drink too much wine. I am, as i said, a fat blob, but i am doing something about it.

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Good for you
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I tried the weightwatcher crisps, not too bad .The red wine is too watery for my taste.Their white wine is tasty though.
I'm so sad, I'm actually enjoying finding low fat foods to satisfy me . in fact for once in my life I'm really into cooking and get quite excited trying out healthy yet yummy recipes LOL
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I still have a chocolate Frijj when I fancy one
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Why is she small-minded? Maybe I am stupid, but I think she is talking a lot of sense about her situation. She's taken the time to analyse what she does and she has made decisions to alter the way she leads her life. Sounds like a pretty big deal to me.
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Anyway I say well done to Annie. Is it not PC to say "well done you've lost weight"? I think Annie has done great and if her horse was her inspiration then I think that is admirable. Why put her down?
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Thank You Tia
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It's perfectly fine to say to me Well done for losing weight
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Keep posting your photo's too, I have the height and am aiming for your lithe leggy look too
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Watch out cowboys, Yeehaaaaaaaa
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Very well written, you've put down in words what I'd like to say
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With her bone(nearly 10 inches) my horse is in the extreme weight carrying league BUT given her conformation and blummin lameness issue I am determined in reaching my healthily achievable target weight
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hallelujah, very well said! all you overweight people-its not about you, its about your horse and they couldnt give 2 figs about your food issues!!!!!!!!

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LOL LOL LOL... she looked a bit big on that pony .... IMO (and obviously others at the event she was at) it was not a welfare issue, so dont disguise your fatism with horse welfare !! LOL
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Sorry HTOBAGO but just because YOU say X amount of bone can carry X amount of weight really doesnt mean it is actually factual or in fact true..... show me some scientific papers which clearly show what you are stating is correct and maybe, just maybe I might take it into consideration!
 
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The rider's BMI is totally irrelevant - this isn't about whether you are 'overweight' for your height, or 'fat' or any other emotive issues - it's about how much total weight a horse or pony should be expected to carry, same as if we were asking how many sacks of grain or whatever a pack-horse/pony can carry.

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But it's not the same thing is it? Sacks of grain etc are 'dead weights' and as such are much harder for a horse to carry than a balanced rider, capable of 'carrying their own weight'.
 
Asti has only 8" of bone, and does dressage and distance rides with me, and me plus tack is considerably more than 13 stone and as I say - she has never had back or tendon or leg issues, is as fit as a fiddle and seems to actively enjoy our escapades, she's not some slow or struggling beastie who you can tell can't manage or isn't happy carrying me.

I think those figures are a bit on the cautious side.
 
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