BHS Magazine - i am so dissapointed in you !

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Page 49 of Jan/Feb edition

"Want to experiance two days that will change your life?"

Oh yeah sure i want to see pat and linda perilli beat up, humilitate horses and all with the support of the BHS.

BHS - i am appalled that you continue to advocate these muppets
 
Really? :eek:

Haven't opened my copy yet so will have a look at it.

Is there a disclaimer in the mag anywhere that says along the lines of 'the BHS do not endorse any products/services advertised in its magazine' or the likes? Could be much needed revenue for the magazine from the advertising. Bit like the suspect 'sellers' who advertise in H&H. They know who they are but need the money they generate :(
 
Ellies_mum - worse than that you apply to win your tickets to "the British Horse Society Coomunications Department" or enter by e-mail to a bhs e-mail address

BHS - wake up smell the coffee - this is doing your reputation no good at all ! and is infact underminding a huge amount of the respect many horse folks have for you -
 
Well you know, there was a time when the BHS was accused, quite possibly correctly, of being a bit narrow minded.There was only one way and that was the BHS way.They are trying to open up a bit.Those that are interested in Parelli will go and those that are not, won't.
 
eahotson said:
Those that are interested in Parelli will go and those that are not, won't.
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Yes, mainly - but some who weren't previously interested in Parelli or who didn't know much about them might have their interest piqued enough to go. Isn't that's the whole point of a notice or article titled as above? The Parelli people have already had their lives changed, presumably!
 
What bothers me is the obvious endorsement and creedence these american idiots are being given by the BHS - and like i have stated previoulsy the BHS does some extreamly worthwhile work for equine welfare - why on earth do they sully their hands with the likes of these charlatons?
 
eahotson said:
Well you know, there was a time when the BHS was accused, quite possibly correctly, of being a bit narrow minded.There was only one way and that was the BHS way.They are trying to open up a bit.Those that are interested in Parelli will go and those that are not, won't.
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It's good to be open minded, but not so open your brain falls out!:D
 
Some years back, there were moves to incorporate Parelli - or maybe it was the "Equine Ethology" offshoot? - into the BHS curriculum on a formal basis. As far as I know, nothing came of that. Does this notice/article indicate that a second attempt is on the cards?
 
No its just a full page advert/competiton promising

"Want to experiance two days that will change your life?

British Horse has teamed up with Parelli to offer three lucky readers the chance to win a pair of tickets to the 2011 Parelli Celebration.

This great two days takes place on April 9 and 10 at the LG Arena, Birmingham with Linda and Pat Parelli sharing their wealth of knowledge. The 2011 Parelli Celebrationi will have you sitting on the edge of your seat, providing a compelling two days not to be missed.

Everything from Horsenality, to problem horses and developing relationships with horses will be covered. As well as an action-packed educational programme, the team will be celebrating people who have discovered their potential with horses and will showcase theim is Savvy Spotlight Sessions"

If any one want to read any more of this tripe let me know and i will type up some more !
 
I have e-mailed our Regional BHS people (as seen on another forum) if anyone wants details of their local BHS reps the e-mails are listed in BHS yearbook, if you don't have one pm me and I'll look it up for you. Anyone, not just members, can contact them with their views on this or any other horse related matter
 
Not a very good year, last year, for the Parelli's, so it will be interesting to see how many folk turn up at the NEC this year. May be able to get a better seat.

I wouldn't get too wound up about the BHS running an ad for them, it probably cost quite a bit, I wouldn't say that the BHS were only in it for the money, but they do have a business to run at the end of the day.

It is the British Horse Society, and they do have to cater for all the Society members, pro as well as anti Parelli. So no, not disappointed at all.
 
I was reading that people are planning to cancel their BHS membership over this. That seems crazy to me as the BHS does lots of good things (and some not so good, granted).
 
I think of myself as very pro-BHS, and yes, I too am disappointed that they affiliate themselves with people such as the Parellis.
Personally, I'd like to see them becoming more involved in the veterinary/science sides of the equine industry.
S :D
 
eahotson said:
Well you know, there was a time when the BHS was accused, quite possibly correctly, of being a bit narrow minded.There was only one way and that was the BHS way.They are trying to open up a bit.Those that are interested in Parelli will go and those that are not, won't.
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Well said.

I think you're all just looking for a fight with something. There are worse things happening, and whether you like it or not, for all the mistakes they've made, Parelli has helped a lot of people and a lot of horses.
 
It is definitely a BHS promotion, not a paid advertisement, Francis. As it states 'The BHS is teaming up with Parelli to offer tickets...'. If an advertisement, it always states at the top of the page. In any case, a full page ad is £2000 plus VAT, a drop in the bucket to the Parellis!

I am a BHS County Chairman, and I have written to express my dismay at this apparent collaboration. If anyone is in doubt that a welfare organisation should be seen to be associating with Parelli, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIx6HCR9iJs

Linda P whacking a one eyed horse around the head, with a heavy Parelli rope- for doing what? And this is part of one of their level one training DVDs- aimed at mostly novice owners and riders. Training?:mad:

The infamous Catwalk incident last year at the RFOH:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gf7w_1ifus .

Not to mention the competition inaugurated by Parelli, Josh Lyons and Craig Cameron, several years ago, and now popular all over the USA and even in Australia.

This involved taking three untouched two year old colts, straight off the range, weak looking and only around fourteen hands high. Their brief, in front of an audience of 6000, in Downtown Fort Worth, Texas, was to have these colts rideable in all three paces, jump a small course of fences, trail a bale of hay around the arena, and be able to go backwards and sideways. Now was this in a few weeks? No, two and a half hours. Yes, just two and a half hours.

This is the website- http://www.inawhisper.com/ - have a look at the photos. Parelli admitted to being 210lbs, and without any thought for the animal, rode that weak fourteen hand two year old, with no physical preparation whatsoever, for nearly two hours. I sent the BHS a copy of the DVD of this, at the time as Parelli was attempting an 'infiltration' of the Society as they had, successfully managed to, the French National Equitation Centre, at Saumur.

I would urge anyone who cares about the welfare of horses, to write to the BHS to express your disappointment, at this apparent endorsement of methods which are the opposite of those that one would expect of a Society that prides itself on improving welfare.
 
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thankyou for making me aware of this awful practise on horses, i was, and i think many other people are somehow unaware of how the parellis treat horses, i have even considered going to an event myself! obviously will not now. lets all stick with monty :)
 
OMG, just watched the two youtube links of dumb and dumber. She's a real heroine isn't she, beating a horse with one eye and as for him, well words fail me. Shame it's not a free demo then we could turn up, fill all the seats and as they strut in all teeth and tan we all got up and walked out leaving an empty arena. Might make them think but then again probably not....
 
Pacey - i am not looking to pick a fight with anyone, and if it was a pure and simple advertisement paid for dumb and dumber then i would not be objecting - however after the incidents with the one eye horse and poor catwalk last year i am not happy that the bhs is showing such staunch support these egits - yes mention them and their ways by all means but dont offer them such support it will only tarnish the reputation of the BHS.

I agreed the BHS has a lot of areas to support but areas that are "questionable" to say the least should be being steered away from and yes i am dissapointed that my subscription money is helping to line the pockets of the horse abusing parellis.
 
ding-dong-merrily said:
What bothers me is the obvious endorsement and creedence these american idiots are being given by the BHS - and like i have stated previoulsy the BHS does some extreamly worthwhile work for equine welfare - why on earth do they sully their hands with the likes of these charlatons?
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Having forced myself to watch the video evidence of the mindless cruelty inflicted on several unsuspecting and genuinly scared horses, suffering under the name of 'enlightened' horsemanship, I now feel totally sickened.

I have no doubt that the BHS had given 'some thought' to having these people ply their trade within the society. But Im very sure that the BHS could never have wanted to attract the sort of flak that will no doubt come their way as a result.

No one with half a brain could ever condone the sort of treatment these dreadful people dish out to these poor horses. The BHS should think again, otherwise the backlash could result in members leaving in droves.
 
As a gold member of the BHS I have to say thay I was both shocked and horified to learn that the BHS has offered these mindless and cruel morons the time and the space to ply their evil trade in the name of 'training'.

Having watched the many video's and the 'evidence' showing plainly, that horses are abused, it totally beggers belief, that the BHS could actually share a platform with them.
Anyone with half a brain, who has anything to do with horses will want to distance themselves from anything to do with the P methods.

I am sure that the BHS had given some little thought to the inclusion of the P methods, but as a respected institution, offering advice on the care and welfare of the equine population of the UK, does it not then go against everything they want to promote, or believe in, to give those who promote cruel methods any sort of a helping hand into spreading their poison to those who are easily fooled.
 
I'm incensed by this. Actually speechless that our WELFARE agency is choosing to associate themselves with this band of horse abusing shysters

One email sent and one membership renewal rescinded....no thanks, I'll not have my money going anywhere near the pockets of those morons.
 
"Your observation of the situation is a reflection of your level of understanding Doesnt make you bad, you just dont know that you dont know! You are not a good enough Horseman to make any comments"

Apparently it takes a certain level of understanding not to mention horsemanship properly to understand what is going on in these videos - a level that most viewers have not yet attained.
 
Arh right then - so i suppose everyone doing their BHS exams and training should be asking for a refund then ? should we only be going to Parelli approved livery yards, trainers and riding schools then? bit of an own goal, so Lee Hackett - you have always served the HHO's so well and have always supported the horses - call to arms please - can you ask the baffon at the BHS who endorsed this why they are risking so much of the soceity's reputation or are they just not in touch with us "uneducated horse lovers" that unfortuanly make up the majority of your subscribers.
 
If the BHS dont wish to be tarred with the same abusive parelli brush they should at the very least remain impartial to the likes of parelli ! They cannot expect a large number of their members not to be strongly objecting and becoming dishartend and "sold out" to horse abuse especailly with the ever increasing shocking abuses the parellis have perforemed over recent years.

The BHS really needs to take a long hard at where they are going and why - and the clue is in the name the British Horse Society - not the American juncit abuses society.
 
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