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Not slacking multitasking
I think they've been a round a very long time so guess we are blaming someone historical for their development!, afaik anyone over the age of 16/18 can purchase them
Then go to your LA's environmental health and complain of noise nuisance which is a perfectly reasonable and valid complaint if they are indeed going off during night time regularly - they can provide you with a noise box in the same way as they do with neighbour disputes - honestly I think that is a perfectly sensible piece of advice in your circumstances and I can't understand why you wouldn't explore that option if the landowners are being so uncooperative.
I live in the middle of arable Lincolnshire so I do understand that they can be a pain in the daytime and that they should not being going off at night. I also wouldn't mind legislation on them at all because we follow the code of GP and don't put them near houses/PROWs - I just object outright to a ban on them because they are very effective.
The rope bangers which Ester has posted I really dislike - and it is scary how easy they are to get hold of - at uni someone set one off at a ball inside a bottle and it caused some serious injuries to my friend.
Actually, I think Pale Rider has just summed up the opinion of most people about farmers. Most do not live in the countryside, they live in urban or city areas and this is precisely how farmers come across in the media. Frankly this is often how farmers come across in person. The farming community is very bad at public relations.
If there was proper legislation and it was being ignored, then I would feel I could complain. As it is, I do not feel I can because it is all a matter of perception. The attitudes of some on this thread illustrate exactly why it would be fruitless to complain. As I have said several times, if they go off at night then I do go out and turn them off and report it the following day, very politely.
I do hope you aren't trespassing to do this.....
Thank you for bumping my thread.
No, they are not in the least bit worried about us going on the land. I do have a good relationship with them which is why I only mention the problem of the bird scarers if they go off at night. The first time it happened they asked me to identify which one it was as they cannot tell during the day. The game keeper actually told me how to switch it off.
So why not just speak to them...I am absolutely baffled by this. And no I'm afraid I wont be signing the petition
As it is it would be pointless talking to the owners about the situation because their attitude would be '**** off'. They may even increase the nuisance to boot.
they are not in the least bit worried about us going on the land. I do have a good relationship with them which is why I only mention the problem of the bird scarers if they go off at night. The first time it happened they asked me to identify which one it was as they cannot tell during the day. The game keeper actually told me how to switch it off.
You're completely contradicting yourself.
You daren't just go and speak to your neighbours in a reasonable manner, because you think they don't care and would probably just increase the nuisance as 'payback.'
Yet you claim to have a good relationship with them to the point where you help them to identify the problem gun and they tell you how to switch it off?
So which is it?
Totally agree! I am so confused with where the OP is actually coming from.....
Where do I think the country side will go ?
Under a pile of housing estates, that's where.
No you're right it's not. However Wagtail says she's been shown by the gamekeeper how to switch them off, which implies there is a malfunction with the ones near her, and if he took the time to show her how to work them then it doesn't sound like he's being ignorant :confused3: it sounds like he's trying to stop the problem, no?But that's no reason for ignorant farmers to keep people awake all night or site bird scarers where they impact the safety of using rights of way .
Run to earth. The way I choose to deal with it is to do all I can to get proper legislation put in place. . . . The proper way is to get legislation put in place first. Then everyone knows where they stand. I find it very strange that you all seem so terrified of it quite frankly.
Before the introduction of these cannons was there a food shortage?
I too just want legislation to control how and when they are used.
Totally agree! I am so confused with where the OP is actually coming from.....
And me...
This thread seems to be degenerating into some sort of attack on the OP.
This thread seems to be degenerating into some sort of attack on the OP.
Why do you think that? Because people have questioned OPs contradictory comments? Surely people are just trying to get as much info as possible to try to advise the OP better?
If they are not prepared to co-operate then nothing can be done about them. Unfortunately a small minority of landowners/farmers will end up spoiling it for everyone if these devices get banned.