Birmingham Council charging owners of impoundedtethered horses £2000 for their return

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Agree or disagree ?

I think its wonderful - hate seeing them tethered and wish it was a national law.

Amazed to see one horse welfare group are against it ? :confused:
 
Going to need lots of land to keep that up - can't imagine many people will stump up the cash. I don't mind seeing horses tethered if well looked after. Its not the way I'd keep a horse, but also I wouldn't kepe a horse in a stable 24/7 - people do things differently. Most tethered horses I have met (lots of them on my sites) are generally pretty well mannered and friendly - so not all the owners will be ogres :)
 
its Sandwell Council thats doing this & the bailiffs are removing the horses (but after they have left notices for the horse to be removed) was speaking to a friend who knows the owner of one of the horses & he did have to pay £2000 to get him back but had had notices left for him to remove the horse from the land.

I also have info from friends that these horses are used for illegal road racing (trotting races) & that in at least one case the winner picked up £500.
 
yes owners are given multiple notices to move the horse of public land before they are taken by bailiffs .
I think £2000 is a good idea as it is the incentive needed for them to remove the animal before it gets taken.

I dont think it's fair that certain people can just tether their horse where ever they like on public land. The rest of us have to pay for livery and paddocks etc so they should too.
 
Good for them. I remember the article in H&H about the company who is hired to remove "mystery" horses who appear in their fields. It's a real cat & mouse game to move the horses before the "criminals who must not be named" show up. I'd love to see a reality show showing these people at work.
 
Paint Me Proud said:
yes owners are given multiple notices to move the horse of public land before they are taken by bailiffs .
I think £2000 is a good idea as it is the incentive needed for them to remove the animal before it gets taken.

I dont think it's fair that certain people can just tether their horse where ever they like on public land. The rest of us have to pay for livery and paddocks etc so they should too.
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I agree.
 
Paint Myrrh Proud said:
yes owners are given multiple notices to move the horse of public land before they are taken by bailiffs .
I think £2000 is a good idea as it is the incentive needed for them to remove the animal before it gets taken.

I dont think it's fair that certain people can just tether their horse where ever they like on public land. The rest of us have to pay for livery and paddocks etc so they should too.
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Ditto. Up here in Scotland I've never once seen a horse randomly tethered on public land, I guess down in England you get a lot more of it. If they get told to move it and dont, then why shouldnt action be taken.
 
MagicMelon said:
Ditto. Up here in Scotland I've never once seen a horse randomly tethered on public land, I guess down in England you get a lot more of it. If they get told to move it and dont, then why shouldnt action be taken.
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In bonnie scotland we do have a few travellers but no legacy of ponies being tethered, I suppose the fairies would take them in the night.
 
If it is public land then why shouldn't anyone tether their horse there - ain't doing any harm - probably saving the council money by cutting the grass for them!

God, some people are so far up there own asses they lose sight of the light!
 
scullysdad said:
If it is public land then why shouldn't anyone tether their horse there - ain't doing any harm - probably saving the council money by cutting the grass for them!

God, some people are so far up there own asses they lose sight of the light!
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erm because it is not a nice way for a horse to live - can be downright dangerous.
Tethering is cruel and should be banned, made totally illegal imo.

A horse deserves proper free roaming grazing - not to be kept on the end of a rope just so the owners save some money on livery or renting a field - Id charge these horrible selfish people double !!!! :mad::mad::mad:
 
Seen plenty of tethered horses that are very well cared for, in good condition and appear to be quite happy.

Not saying that they wouldn't prefer to roam freely over the common land but sadly vehicle drivers would probably kill them ...

,,, no, fining the owners sounds like a jolly wheeze to raise some cash by Birmingham Council.
 
we had one teathered for her own safety & once you have seen a healthy pony smash her self to bits because the grass is greener you change stance very quickly.

P&R, mains electric (9 strands over 6ft high) brick walls, security panels, hedges you name it she went through/over/under the damned thing, vets could find nothing wrong with her (even with scans on brain). she had company, plenty of food......

sadly her days ended very painfully because some ANNOYING DOGOODER took her off the teather to be loose with the other ponies in our (Private) feild where she promplty went through 7ft high 4ft wide hawthorne hedge & the P&R in front of it & down the embankment into the path of a HGV.

Dont tar all with the same brush, thank you.
 
Aoibhin said:
we had one teathered for her own safety & once you have seen a healthy pony smash her self to bits because the grass is greener you change stance very quickly.

P&R, mains electric (9 strands over 6ft high) brick walls, security panels, hedges you name it she went through/over/under the damned thing, vets could find nothing wrong with her (even with scans on brain). she had company, plenty of food......

sadly her days ended very painfully because some ANNOYING DOGOODER took her off the teather to be loose with the other ponies in our (Private) feild where she promplty went through 7ft high 4ft wide hawthorne hedge & the P&R in front of it & down the embankment into the path of a HGV.

Dont tar all with the same brush, thank you.
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But you are contradicting yourself - you agree with me!
You obviously prefer to keep your horses loose or else you wouldnt have tried so many measures so she could run free.
I am saying owners who choose to keep their horses in this way rather than pay for land for grazing are selfish and cruel

I live in Leeds and see some very sorry sights - ponies tethered alone on verges next to busy roads with no water, no rugs in terrible weather despite beign unable to move around to keep warm.
Or worse in areas notorious for trouble - red light areas etc.
Areas you wouldnt feel safe walking alone in never mind leaving the poor sods alone to be teased or worse by drunks and idiots.
We all have different opinions and I respect that - i just think if people cannot afford or be bothered to provide grazing then they should not have horses.
I dont agree with caged bunnies or birds either - but i suppose im going off on one now :D
 
scullysdad said:
If it is public land then why shouldn't anyone tether their horse there - ain't doing any harm - probably saving the council money by cutting the grass for them!

God, some people are so far up there own asses they lose sight of the light!
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Because public land is for public use- putting a horse on a part if it stops others using it.

I am not against horses being teathered itself (there have been some good emamples of why it might be the best management choice for an individual horse on this thread) but NOT on public land!

We recently had a young mare teathered in the middle of some grassland, its a popular spot for walkers that was put out of use because it was not safe to go past the bugger- if it was on a livery yard in a properly fenced field it would not have been a problem ;)
 
If it's public land can't we share? in Devon we already have designated areas for dog walkers, kids etc, don't see why tethered horses can't have an area. To be honest much easier for any concerned person or welfare to see the condition of a tethered horse rather than loose ones belting around a wasteland area. How the horse is condition wise is more important to me than whether it is tethered as long as it's done properly and mainly, the people keeping horses this way, have been doing it for centuries - to them the horse is a valuable asset.
 
Aoibhin said:
no im not agreeing, i prefer to see them free to roam but would NEVER be happy with a ban on it.
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That's because you have never been a welfare officer and seen the sad sorry sights I did I have no problem with you tethering your horse on your own land but there is a huge problem of illegal tethering around most citys most of the horses get inadequate care have miserable lives and pose a terrible risk to drivers when they get loose.
UNtil you have been involved you would not believe what goes on I would think that this council will have spent a fortune so far as well as the police RSPCA etc etc chasing round trying to solve this problem and have decided to get tough.
 
sorry, but I know someone who's trying to start this business.in Bridgend as the council won't. They aren't interested.

As far as "they should all be allowed it's cutting grass" good, I'm not paying for grazing anymore then, why don't we all start tethering/fly grazing?

I agree with the poster who did it in the animals interest, BUT, notice how they politely stated " a dogooder... PRIVATE land" yeah, that's important, the word private as in that posters land, the land that poster PAYS for.

Although 2k is a silly figure, it's the best thing to do. Why should Anyone, no matter how pretty the pony is or polite etc, be allowed to own an animal they cannot provide sufficient care to?

Everybodies quick enough to ***** on the rspca for not doing anything, a council does something and gets blasted.

There really is no happy medium with horse minded people.
 
scullysdad said:
If it is public land then why shouldn't anyone tether their horse there - ain't doing any harm - probably saving the council money by cutting the grass for them!

God, some people are so far up there own asses they lose sight of the light!
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Because it is a nightmare of inadequate care lack of water the mares foal on the tehers then as the foals run around as they get older get on roads the colts who are mostly unhandled get older and start covering the mares on the tethers and fighting then the ' owners' don't want the colts as they have to pay to cut them so will move them to another part of the city and dump them . They get onto roads and cause mayhem even death . They get harassed by dogs and injured in some areas I covered if injured the ' owners ' would sometimes move them closer to walk ways or pavements so the public call some kind charity who would treat them for nothing I could go on and on and on .
The cost £2000 may seem high but the council will be required to keep these horses in circumstances far better than they will ever have experianced before and why should Birminghams council tax payers meet the cost.

And as for your comment about people being up their own asses it's unecessary to be rude you may not aggree with this councils action at least they are trying
to address a problem.
 
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