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My sister was givin a pony around 3 years ago. (must stress givin, not on loan)
After around a year my sister put him on loan to a really good friend who has done so well with him and hes looked after so well.
He came to us with nothing and no passport.
First agreement was she would pay for livery my sister would pay for everything else. This never happened and we were left with a huge bill as she kept saying she was coming down to pay.
Next time we seen her she said hes our horse now she wants nothing to do with him. Have seen her a few times since and she hasnt even asked how he is.
Today we have had a message saying she wants him back get intouch asap. My sister has sent her a message back saying everything we have been through with him and she said she never wnats him back. Passport in our name etc and how much we have paid out over the years and all the work that has been put into him.

Were do we stand? On paper he is our pony. He was never looked after with her. was left for days on end with no hay or clean water (other liverys used there for him) Hes been with us for 3 years with no contact
 
Is the person that wants him back the person that your sister loaned him to? or the person that gave the pony to your sister?

Sorry, just can't quite make it out from your post
 
Sorry i posed this after a few glasses of rose :o

The woman who wants him back is the woman who gave him to my sister. Shes not been intouch since she gave him and said she doesnt want him back. Also left us in a few hundred pounds of debt at yard
 
It is rather difficult as he was given to your sister.
If it was me i would write up a bill for full livery for the 3 years + all other costs and demand payment or the horse signed over.
 
Was there a signed contract/reciept when you took him on?

If not then i have no idea sorry, but i guess unless you have proof she signed him over to you and she has a reciept from when she bought him. I think she would have the upper hand .. Sorry :(
 
unfortunately she has 6 yrs to make a claim on the horse however she would have to pay the cost of bills that a) she left when you took him on and b) have occurred since she "gave" him to you. i would work out and present her with a bill i am sure she will go away again quickly when she realies that she would owe you thousands of £££. i would get advice from CBA though

this is assuming she didn't give you a signed receipt
 
There was a similar post on here a few weeks ago and the most important thing at the moment is to make sure she cannot take the pony from where he is. If she knows where he is kept then move him as a matter of urgency, if she gets him then it is too late to do anything. As others have said, present her with a bill for ALL expenses, including your sister's time for the time he has been in her care. Don't forget, full livery, farrier, vets, dentist, back person, tack, grooming kit, rugs (including all the ones he has trashed since he has been with you). Ensure that he is a very expensive pony if she really wants him back and make it clear that he won't be returned without cleared funds! Good luck
 
Lila said:
No we have no reciept, neither does she.
She dosnt know anything really about horses he was bought as a "fashion statement"
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She may have a reciept from when she bought him. Which would be proof that she is the owner, the passport isnt proof of ownership. I would get legal advice and like others have said total up the costs of keeping him ect that you have paid out and see if you would be able to claim back the money or she can sign the horse over.

Let us know how you get on, must be a horrible situation :(
 
Shes doesnt know were he is. But we are still thinking of moving him to a friends (hour or so away) so she wouldnt find him.
She has no reciept (i know this as a fact) as she bought him as a foal from a woman who didnt do anything by the book.
Im sure the bills we have over the last 3 years is enough to put her off.
Have asked her for contact number to discuss this but shes givin us a number that doesnt work and is saying shes going to our parents (both of us have been moved out for 2years+) and shes knows were my sister lives so could easily go round to hers to discuss this.
Thanks for the advise guys will see what happens
 
Quite right to move him, but do get legal advice (CAB if you can't afford a solicitor) a.s.a.p. I should move him quickly, as in the recent case on here the current keeper didn't act fast enough and the 'owners' snatched the pony back.
 
If she has no receipt for original purchase then how is she going to prove that he is hers.
Tell her to feck off and if she wants pony back, to prove he belongs to her.
I think she would be struggling.
I don't have any proof of purchase of my horse but if the seller came back to try and get her back then it would really be the same situation as you are in. I can't prove that she was legally bought but doubt they would be able to prove that she wasn't.

If you are challenged about it just say you bought her for £100 cash and didn't get a receipt. Can't see anyone being able to prove otherwise.
 
Shes saying something about him being registered to her? But hes not registered? He's never had a passport until we got him one.
I feel she wants him back to sell him and try make quick money. Shes just had another kid so she couldnt affrd to keep him (she couldnt in the first place)
Its not going to happen. I hardly slept a wink last night because of it :(
 
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