Bit suggestion please

poiuytrewq

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I'm looking for a new bit for my daughters pony. He's crazy strong to jump and on the way home from hacks. He's fairly voice responsive actually on the hack- she can canter safely in an open space for example but it's bordering on slightly dangerous the closer we get to home (this bit being a quiet road)
He's a fab jumper but just wears her out after a few minutes schooling or jumping.
She has kind hands, is 14 so not a little child, her other ride is competing at dressage and is nicely schooled. I'm pretty certain she can cope with a stronger bit, he just needs a reminder to hopefully get him going better and swap back down.
Teeth done yesterday. Dentist said no particular issues- he doesn't have a particularly small mouth so we can play around and see what suits.
He has a solid neck and holds his head quite high, a head lowering action would be beneficial.
I thought about a gag but it's probably just the most common so wondered what other options might be?
Sorry it's so long!
 

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I'll give my stock answer, of a Kimblewick. I love this bit.

BUT, the best person as always to advise would be her instructor.
 

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You may want to stay away from gags as they raise heads. My cob x goes in a kimblewick and he loves the tongue relief the port gives. They also have a head lowering action. If you go for a uxeter version there is different rein options to adjust the strength.
 

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Our pony dropped her head and the gag is great, she hated the kimblewick, yours sounds the opposite so maybe the kimblewick would work. Good luck.
 

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I'll give my stock answer, of a Kimblewick. I love this bit.

BUT, the best person as always to advise would be her instructor.

I love them too. I had a horse who was very strong out hacking and tried a number of bits. The kimblewick was excellent.
 

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Oh gosh! All in agreement ;)
A kimblewick it is then, I've not seen a kimblewick in the few local places by me for years- are they still sold new?
Do they come with different mouth pieces?
 

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She's not got an instructor on this horse but does have dressage and jumping lessons off a lovely guy on the loan horse so I have asked him to see if he can help with this one and he's coming out to see him sometime (when of course he will behave impeccably!)
 

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You can get them in pretty much any mouth piece, jointed, lozenge etc. And in different metals, salox, sweet iron, steel etc I have tried all the mouth pieces under the sun and I definately prefer the ported mouthpiece as it allows extra room for the tongue/swallowing and most seem to prefer this. I use a leather curb chain on mine instead of the chain as I feel it is more comfortable/ less chance of catching them as I do a lot of jumping. But if the pony is very stong you may want the chain! (although i'd always used a rubber chain guard- but I'm soft!)
 
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