Bit suggestions for a busy mouth

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My horse has a very busy mouth and when we are schooling he chomps constantly. With him I believe it is a sign of tension rather than out-and-out evasion, when we are out hacking and he gets tense he immediately starts with the chomping.

He's not heavy in the hand, when he gets very chompy he goes too deep and goes under the bit so you feel that there is no contact at all. He's naturally lazy too so trying to bring him back up with leg is hard work!

I normally ride him in a Myler loose ring comfort snaffle and a cavesson or no noseband. I began to think that a loose ring was making the matter worse, it's almost as though the play in the bit exacerbates his busy mouth and so I have recently been riding him in a Myler eggbut with a low port and a normal french link eggbut. I think I am getting a better result with the eggbut bits and today I tried a drop noseband too but he was pretty chompy. He doesn't open his mouth to evade, I am using the drop to keep the bit as still as possible. I've tried him in a couple of Neue Schule bits, a loose ring french link and a hanging cheek french link and his chomping is at its worst in them. I suspect he doesn't like the salox which I why I have mostly stuck with mylers.

He is not a particularly forward thinking horse and he is generally well behaved out hacking but occasionally (say twice a year) we will have some pissing off incident where he just pokes his nose and goes and I feel I have no brakes whatsoever. It doesn't last long but is enough to make me then ride him in a tom thumb for a while. I like him in the tom thumb (which has a lozenge) as it brings him up from the too deep position but feel it is overkill when chances are that I won't need that degree of braking for another six months. He is very chompy in it too.

I have been wondering whether to try a mullen mouthpiece on him on the basis that it will be the stillest mouthpiece for him. However, I have a fear that a mullen mouthpiece will be off little use if he has one of his tank moments.

Any thoughts?
 
i'd try a mullen, in a safe environment. the myler loose ring comfort snaffle has a LOT of of movement, and imho might pinch the tongue too, so i'd only ever use it on a very bold slightly rude horse, not one that backs off etc.
you could try wrapping latex or something around a single-joint bit, see if he prefers that. someone on here suggested a gel insert for (human!) shoes as something their trainer used to secure around bits, and some horses loved it.
 
i'd try a mullen, in a safe environment. the myler loose ring comfort snaffle has a LOT of of movement, and imho might pinch the tongue too, so i'd only ever use it on a very bold slightly rude horse, not one that backs off etc.

Hmmm, thanks for confirming my instinct that there was too much movement in it for my boy.

My default starting point is always loose ring with a lozenge but it seems that it has taken me a ridiculously long time to twig that this is not really the right set up for him. Stupid me.

Funnily enough my other horse, a very, very bold (some might say slightly rude) chestnut mare goes great in a loose ring french link :-) Seems I inadvertently stumbled into getting that one just right!
 
Im glad you posted this, as i am having an almost identical issue with my mare, although she only chomps when she isnt forward enough. This is obviously when she s tense and backing off.
She was in a KK ultra (previously in a NS verbindend). I am now trying a plain eggbutt snaffle with quite a thick mouthpiece and a flash.
I tried a mullen mouth eggbut snaffle first as I thought this was the stillest bit I could think of. However she just backed off and refused to go forward in it at all???
 
Im glad you posted this, as i am having an almost identical issue with my mare, although she only chomps when she isnt forward enough. This is obviously when she s tense and backing off.
She was in a KK ultra (previously in a NS verbindend). I am now trying a plain eggbutt snaffle with quite a thick mouthpiece and a flash.
I tried a mullen mouth eggbut snaffle first as I thought this was the stillest bit I could think of. However she just backed off and refused to go forward in it at all???
Hello, I am having exactly the same problem just years later :-). I wonder, did you manage to work out your chomping horses? My horse is difficult to get in rhythm and any kind of contact results in chomping although the contact is light and the horse is pretty obedient except the rhythm problem.
 
try the bomber happy tongue or the trust medium port :)

my pony cant/wont tolerate anything jointed or lozenged but settles beautifully in a ported snaffle.

he preferred the trust very slightly over the bomber.
 
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