Bit with a curb?

[kayleigh_and_rocky]

Hi guys, after having a chat with my trainer he says i should put rock in something with a curb to showjump and XC him. For anyone who didnt read previous post, hes currently in a 3ring metal snaffle on second ring (have also tried him on snaffle ring to no avail) and i have no steering and he tucks his head into his chest, i think its too much poll pressure for him!
So i was wondering if someone could recommend a bit with a curb, something not too harsh and maybe rubber or a sweet metal?
I'm not very keyed up on this bitting thing! lol

Look forward to hearing your suggestions

 

[Weezy]

Kimblewick would be where I would go

 

[RunToEarth]

Yes I would agree with Lou, I had one in Eric for a while because he was strong sjing, its just a nicer bit than a pelham.

 

[kayleigh_and_rocky]

Yes i had a kimblewick on a previous horse of mine but just feel it would be a bit too strong for rock?

 

[RunToEarth]

Have you ever ridden the dutch they way it is designed, with a leather curb on it?
Thing with Kimbs is there is more to lean on than a jointed bit, but really it is only as strong as you need it to be.

 

[kayleigh_and_rocky]

Havnt ridden with a leather curb, but could try it? Maybe with a french link or something similar instead of straight forward snaffle?? (or maybe im talking absolute trash lol just airing my thoughts)

 

[RunToEarth]

Well the dutch was actually designed to be used with a leather curb so it could be worth a shot, just try him at home in it- see how reacts.
Before I switched my coloured out of the DG I tried one with a waterford mouthpiece, less to grab hold of and a little bit more control- it just didnt do the job out hunting.

 

[Gentle_Warrior]

slotted kimblewick

 

[Weezy]

Kayleigh a kimblewick really isn't a strong bit at all! You can also get a variety of mouthpieces if you do not want a straight bar (I have a KK lozenge kimblewick, a french link AND a single link!). If you have issues with poll pressure then I would not put a curb on the dutch gag as you ain't going to be getting rid of the pressure at all

 

[kayleigh_and_rocky]

Ah i thought the kimblewick was just one kind of mouth piece (with the hump in the middle) see that shows how much i know about bits!! So you can get it with different mouthpieces? Which would you suggest trying?

 

[amage]

ring heather at neue schule and ask her about the tranz continental with lozenge...i have found it superb on a very strong elephant of a horse. i was on to her yest re: double bridle bits and she was telling me in some horses the curb has a pacifying effect...certainly the case with my doll anyway!!

 

[flyingfeet]

Ah but Neue Schule don't do kimblewicks, which is why we made one with a lozenge, as there wasn't a cost effective alternative (Sprengers are v. expensive!)

 

[amage]

i wasn't talking specifically about kimblewicks though