Bitch mated twice by 2 different dogs help.

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my poodle went to stud last week and succesfully tied 4 times over 48 hours.she is still receptive.last night i was getting her out of car and carrying her into house this great big mongrel thing came from nowhere and knocked me over.i had to let go of my poodle and she ran off with this thing.i went to find her but couldnt and she came home an hour later with this thing and barked to be let back in.then the thing ran off.she has been ravished by this thing.what do i do now.will the pups be pedigree poodles or will they be crosses of this horrible mongrel thing.please help.
 
You didn't see her tie with the mongrel, so you can't be sure. If you're really concerned, get the mismate jab and re-mate her next time. Or wait to see if she's in whelp and let the pups arrive. Dogs can have pups from two different sires AFAIK sorts a risk you need to consider.
 
i think i would rather wait and see what happens-she will be due end of june so dont know if she is in pup yet and as i didnt see them tie i will risk it.this is her first litter and she is 3 (i wouldnt do it any earlier)
 
I afraid yes she could give birth to both , we had a cow which gave birth to a Hereford calf x and an Aberdeen Angus x calf. The Hereford bull belonged to us and the Aberdeen Angus was our neighbours:rolleyes:.

A trip to the vet is definately in order.
 
What size is the bitch and what is the size difference between her & the dog you saw?
If the dog is much larger there could be whelping problems.
When was she actually mated?
 
gosh sorry for your situation but have to admit, the vision of how you describe this dog,wolfy thing with big yellow eyes,bowling you over to get your bitch has conjoured up a cartoon style wylie cyotee and had me in stitches:o i know its not funny really.
 
aintgotnohay said:
my poodle went to stud last week and succesfully tied 4 times over 48 hours.she is still receptive.last night i was getting her out of car and carrying her into house this great big mongrel thing came from nowhere and knocked me over.i had to let go of my poodle and she ran off with this thing.
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So this dog which knocked you over is 18" If a 14" poodle was mated by a dog large enough to knock someone over it is probably a good idea to consult your vet.
 
its one of the ugliest things you ever seen.its called olly cos it appears every time i have a breeding bitch in season.had trouble with it last year.its just turfed out everyday-nice owners.dog warden informed but still on the loose.
 
NeverSayNever said:
gosh sorry for your situation but have to admit, the vision of how you describe this dog,wolfy thing with big yellow eyes,bowling you over to get your bitch has conjoured up a cartoon style wylie cyotee and had me in stitches:o i know its not funny really.
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I must admit it had that affect on me as well.:D we are both sick:D
 
If you let her carry on and hopefully have a litter you can DNA test to see which are purebred. I don't know the exact procedure but it is being suggested in some rarer breeds that bitches are mated to two different sires, and resulting pups are DNA tested and can be registered. This is to increase the gene pool, as it means a bitch can in say 2 litters, possibly produce pups by 4 sires. I only skim read the article but is definitely happening.
 
Mongrel sounds like my kind of dog, mangy, grey ugly & wolf like. And big enough to knock someone over.
I have a worse image, anyone seen wolves of willoughby Chase? Have an image of the poodle in a train, dressed in old fashioned dress & bonnet, with the wolf dog jumping in to rape & pillage.
Sorry op, as said she could be pregnant by both, so up to you if you want to take that chance.
 
My 1st Mongrel Mutt and his brother had different sires. Mum was a pedigree ESS, sires were????? Half the litter were big black and hairy and half finer, short coated, black with white bibs and paws. So definitely possible.

I now have a wired image of a rather petite person struggling to carry a 14" poodle, and being knocked over by a 18" wolf...............:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
she would have been quite far on her heat when she mated the first time? So a week later she will most probably have gone off?
 
Well least even if the pups are all cross breeds, the fact your bitch is a poodle gives you an advantage.
Just give the pups some cutesy designer name and you'll be able to sell them for more than purebred poodle pups :p
How's about wolfadoodles? ;)
 
I think 'mangydoodles' has a certain ring to it. Could be judged at crufts on confirmational ability to knock people over & mate with dogs exiting cars.
 
I know nothing about breeding dogs or any related etiquette but might the stud dog owner have something to say if your bitch gives birth to some odd pups?! Quite apart from the fact that your bitch might well struggle to give birth if the other dog is so big?

My first stafford mated with a huge Labrador and in the time whe she was supposedly clear! Quick visit to the vets the following day, My mother was very cross with me but she is obsessed with breeding.... Never liked my horses as normally have geldings and my only mare, while proven, was too high risk for me..!
 
As long as the OP is prepared to DNA test pups the stud dog owner shouldn't have a problem, that will prove which pups are which. Something similar happened to a bitch our stud dog was used on many years ago. The owners of the bitch never said anything but when we went to see the litter it was obvious that not all were purebred GSDs. They then admitted that she had run off and been missing for a couple of hours a couple of days after she had been to our dog! At that time there was no way of proving without doubt which were the pure shepherds, although it was pretty clear which definitely werent . We therefore refunded some of the stud fee (no need to as it was there fault but did feel a bit sorry for them) and they sold the pups without papers.
 
Luci07 said:
I know nothing about breeding dogs or any related etiquette but might the stud dog owner have something to say if your bitch gives birth to some odd pups?! Quite apart from the fact that your bitch might well struggle to give birth if the other dog is so big?

My first stafford mated with a huge Labrador and in the time whe she was supposedly clear! Quick visit to the vets the following day, My mother was very cross with me but she is obsessed with breeding.... Never liked my horses as normally have geldings and my only mare, while proven, was too high risk for me..!
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wots it got to do with the stud dog owners?????
 
I guess because you'll be selling these pups as sired by their dog, and if they look rather dodgy it wouldn't reflect too well on them
 
So even if you let her have the litter and do the DNA thing - what happens to the pups? Pedigrees go off to new homes with a serious price tag on them - as you seem to detest this poor opportunist father to be so much, are you going to drown the misfits or just hand them over to a rescue?

Just wondering here? For a dog lover (making assumptions here that you consider yourself as such)you sound very selective in what sort of dogs you do and don't love and have concern for?:(
 
CL66 said:
I guess because you'll be selling these pups as sired by their dog, and if they look rather dodgy it wouldn't reflect too well on them
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Unless of course they aren't going to be registered/papered. We have kind of assumed they would be KC registered........
 
grumpyoldmare said:
So even if you let her have the litter and do the DNA thing - what happens to the pups? Pedigrees go off to new homes with a serious price tag on them - as you seem to detest this poor opportunist father to be so much, are you going to drown the misfits or just hand them over to a rescue?

Just wondering here? For a dog lover (making assumptions here that you consider yourself as such)you sound very selective in what sort of dogs you do and don't love and have concern for?:(
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OMG now have visions of aintgotnohay ripping Wolfoddles off the teats of mum, while pushing the poddle pups in to feed. :(
 
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