N1992
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my pony can be realy naughty and he will start to try bite me any ideas on how to stop him?? he also gets excited realy easy. thinking of adding a calmer to his feed do they realy work??
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Cedars
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My moody mare gets the most almighty smack when she tries to bite me - on her shoulder so it doesn't damage her but it makes her think twice. Don't shy away (I know its difficult!) and continue with what you were doing.
I disagree with the use of calmers so I can't advise you on that. xxxx
I disagree with the use of calmers so I can't advise you on that. xxxx
kellyeaton
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when by boy just to bite me i bite him back he soon learned not to do it but you need to be bite him on his ear or muzzle so he can feel it!
Bowen4Horses
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whilst i'm not a horse beater.... if my horse were to EVER bite or kick me, i'd give them a good smack or a kick. but it has to be immediate, and enough to make them think.
that's what their superior field mate would do.... x
ets: i'm not sure what a calmer would do... it's bad behaviour, not over excitedness xxx
that's what their superior field mate would do.... x
ets: i'm not sure what a calmer would do... it's bad behaviour, not over excitedness xxx
My_chestnut_mare
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I might get shot down in flames here as i have done on hho b4.
But i was told that if a horse was a biter or went to bit to ping its nose with your finger as if you were flicking something away.
as for the calmer stuff i had a very excitable 16.2h warmblood who also lived off his nerves and i used allan and page calm and condition along with global herbs super calm.
it worked well and relaxed him.
But i was told that if a horse was a biter or went to bit to ping its nose with your finger as if you were flicking something away.
as for the calmer stuff i had a very excitable 16.2h warmblood who also lived off his nerves and i used allan and page calm and condition along with global herbs super calm.
it worked well and relaxed him.
spike123
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It depends on when and how the pony is biting.If he is doing it to avoid behaving himself ie when being led then you need to nip it in the bud fast.My horse is not the type to tolerate being bullied by anyone.He has been abused in the past and now has the attitude of I will have you before you have me so if you tried to dominate him by force then he would fight you every step of the way and behave far worse. When I first owned him you couldn't pick up his back feet without him cow kicking,go in the stable without meeting his teeth or his back end spinning on you threatening to kick and if you turned your back for so much as a second he would nip you,not nastily but cheekily none the less. It took me almost 6 months to turn his behaviours around and have found that if I treat him fairly and always reward the good behaviour then he tries hard to do as he is told.As he has learned to trust me and feel safe with me his behaviour has improved hugely. I dealt with his biting by pulling his whiskers every time he tried it or if I was grooming and he tried to bite then I ensured he met my elbow each time and carried on brushing and ignoring him.It works.
N1992
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yh i give him a little smack but was just wondering if there was a more long term thing as he always does it again? about the calmer is not to do with biting its when am working with him he behaves then gets too excited and is hard to control would a calmer help with this???
Cedars
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You're not telling him off enough. Biting is bad behaviour, not excitement.
Give him a smack, then stand still and wait for him to calm down. If he bites you again, another smack. Carry on with that until he'll let you come near him/touch his face or something similar. Then give lots of treats.
It just takes practice. Don't rely on chemicals, our two have no chemicals, supplements etc at all - grass in summer, hay in winter, and they're well behaved cos of how they're looked after and taught to behave.
xx
Give him a smack, then stand still and wait for him to calm down. If he bites you again, another smack. Carry on with that until he'll let you come near him/touch his face or something similar. Then give lots of treats.
It just takes practice. Don't rely on chemicals, our two have no chemicals, supplements etc at all - grass in summer, hay in winter, and they're well behaved cos of how they're looked after and taught to behave.
xx
Cedars
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Btw if he's been abused this is a whole other kettle of fish. I was assuming he's just being a naughty pony! (as so many are!!) xxxx
night_mare
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if a horse bites me i pinch it back rather than smack it because a pinch feels more like a bite to them so its like another horse biting them back. it worked with mine.
N1992
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no my ponys not bein abused and what everyone has bein saying is what i do
Cedars
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Well its worked for us so thats all we can advise you on.
My_chestnut_mare
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How old is he and when was he gelded?
also when he bites when you smack him also say NO! In a stern voice.
also when he bites when you smack him also say NO! In a stern voice.
Sarah Sum1
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I have read that horses and other animals alike, are not capable of 'naughty behaviour' they have not got the capacity to be imoral or bad. The behaviour you witness may appear to be 'bad' but it is just a projection of a feeling. I.e Fear, nervousness. If it is a deep seated trait then you have to go way back to basics. Hitting in my opinion is not the soloution. If they are biting out of fear, then get hit it's proving their need to be defensive. Spike123 has got it right in my opinion. Best of luck.
Dubsie
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I have read that horses and other animals alike, are not capable of 'naughty behaviour' they have not got the capacity to be imoral or bad.
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Are you sure they don't? I suppose 'naughty', 'imoral' and 'bad' are our terms for their behaviour rather than 'not accceptable' vs 'acceptable', but I'd like you to come and watch daughters Welshie, who when my back is turned seems to take great delight in giving me a nip on the bum then when I turn round stands there completely innocently looking the other way as if to say 'wasn't me!' Then when I turn away again almost smirks as if to say 'ha got away with it again'. She knows she shouldn't do it because if I happen to turn about when she's contemplating a nip she doesn't know where to look and moves her head well away as if to say 'I wasn't going to, honest, look my head is miles away from you!' I don't think it's fear, or nervousness but a sense of fun and playing a game of 'I know it's naughty, but you didn't see me' much as a toddler might
We'll get it on video one day.
I have read that horses and other animals alike, are not capable of 'naughty behaviour' they have not got the capacity to be imoral or bad.
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Are you sure they don't? I suppose 'naughty', 'imoral' and 'bad' are our terms for their behaviour rather than 'not accceptable' vs 'acceptable', but I'd like you to come and watch daughters Welshie, who when my back is turned seems to take great delight in giving me a nip on the bum then when I turn round stands there completely innocently looking the other way as if to say 'wasn't me!' Then when I turn away again almost smirks as if to say 'ha got away with it again'. She knows she shouldn't do it because if I happen to turn about when she's contemplating a nip she doesn't know where to look and moves her head well away as if to say 'I wasn't going to, honest, look my head is miles away from you!' I don't think it's fear, or nervousness but a sense of fun and playing a game of 'I know it's naughty, but you didn't see me' much as a toddler might
We'll get it on video one day.
Sarah Sum1
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Yeah i know what you mean It's just something i have read and it makes sense to me. Their behaviour may be naughty but it's because of something. They don't generaly think up evil master plans.
I would just rather not hit any animal. I beleive you! It's just something i read thats all
Sarah Sum1
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I think we give horses the same credit when it comes to humans way of thinking. They are not capable of a lot of what we 'think' they are able to do. A lot of it is just instinct and behaviour learnt through a feeling. But the person who wrote said article could be wrong so who knows. I am just in the rather not hit an animal camp.
