Bitten Off more than I can chew?!

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So to cut a long story short, I brought a newforest colt from the sales last year, un handled. I am not expieirenced with youngsters but my mum/boss a few friends are so had their support and advice on tap. Pony was coming along well, being led about, groomed saw the farrier, turned out and brought in at night etc, plan was to have him cut and turn him away un till he was 3 or 4 to break and then sell depending on height etc, I then had to move him due to numerous reasons and he has turned into a complete nightmare, jumping out or through post and rail fences so can no longer turn him out, rearing when being led and being a complete arse in general. I need to sell him/ find him a home as he is just making me nervous and I dread taking him for his daily strolls as it ends in tears! I know he would come right again with the right handler and facilities but I just dont want him to end up in a crap home as I would never forgive myself!
Thoughts Please on what to do with him?!
 
Whack his *******s off asap.

Mains charged electric taping.

Stronger headcollar/bridle. Insist on behaviour. Insist, insist, insist!

Don't sell, he could end up in all sorts of bad hands. You can do it! xxx
 
Hes not cut yet as the way he is at the moment Im worried about the aftercare but He isnt acting 'coltish' just feral!! Im based in oxfordshire
 
I think that the lack of turnout won't be helping at all. I would also try him with a inner ring of elec fencing inside the post and rail (too big to jump..).

Why is he jumping through the fence? Is he alone and trying to get to other horses?

I would definately get him cut.

Can he not go back to your mum/someone who has more experience?
 
Has he been gelded yet? That usually helps settle them down (not alway though).

If you want a site to advertise him on try Project horses... www.projecthorses.co.uk As long as you don't expect silly money for him I am sure you will be able to find a good home to take him on.
 
Sod the aftercare, you can worry about that afterwards and sedate if necessary. You need to whip them off!! Or you'll be a grandmother soon enough!

Where are you in the country? xx
 
Thanks FH, i was thinking of putting a halter under headcollar as an extra yank if needed, have also been wearing a big coat as feet keep landing on me and my hat when leading, i look like im entering a war zone! I dont want to sell as Im so worried of where he will end up and I really couldnt sleep at night!
 
Have to say in my experience (and I've known a LOT of off the forest NFers) that they are total pains for breaking through Post and Rail! The only thing you can do is mains electrify a strand of tape along it.

Def have his bits off. It will make him a lot easier to sell if you do as well.
 
Dont take ANY risks - hat, body protector, really padded jacket, proper shoes.

How do you discipline when he rears up?

Feel for you! =[ xx
 
Honey he was jumping out when i was trying to be caught, no different to usual just started being a ****!

Fh- im in oxon

Might just steal my mums old git pony and find a yard with turnout that he can go 2, Ideally i need a paddock with a stable in it if that makes sense!
 
Sorry trying to keep up with replys, when he rears I pull him down and say 'no' will also give him a smack. For biting kicking etc I get quite good at meeting his mouth/leg when he does it so give him a smack!

Gonna release him back on the new forest at this rate!! :eek:
 
Pm'd you!

Think I will chop him myself for revenge! No in all seriousness gonna get him booked in, and never buy a pony again, stick to my sane ex race horses!
 
I would wonder what to do in your shoes too. Someone wrote a book about managing and handling wild ponies -maybe you can find it on Amazon?

He is a colt, so all this rearing is play fighting with you. He sees you as his playmate, he thinks it is a lot of fun. A youngster really should be out with other horses, ideally mixed ages, or at least something of a similar age so they can run round and play together.

Get him gelded asp. You could contact a Intelligent Horseman ship person who would help you with handling issues, which would be money well spent.
 
Thankyou for everyones help, to say thankyou I will give you a nice coloured new forest x....:D:D

No PLan of action is...
1.Have him chopped
2.Find Suitable Grass Livery
3.Find suitable companion
4.Let him grow up into a well behaved riding pony who kids will love!!

In the mean time I think Im just gonna have to grin and bare it:)
 
And don't give up, but it does sound like he's a typical colt so yes the whats it's have to come off, if he's not having any turn out, for a wild pony that will drive him insane being kept in. You find most young colts like to rear up at you and box, it's their idea of play fighting, just watch 2 young colts together.:D:D:D And a large g&t goes down a treat afterwards.:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
Shame you're not near Somerset, I know someone who'd be able to offer you some great advice / support.

But, what kind of yard is he at - with other youngsters, or an older group (which could explain the jumping out of fields, and stress generally).

You need to get him gelded.

And you need to turn him out.
 
If it makes you feel any better, right up until you said "oxfordshire" I thought you were someone I know of!

Same story, off the forest colt, no previous experience, everyone helped in, colt was lovely, moved yards, everything goes to pot.

So if it helps in anyway, you are not alone!! Those forest colts are out there making everyone's lives miserable!

In fact... I have a 38yo forester on my yard who still makes my life miserable... PMSL!
 
geld him and find some turn out with a few older horses who don't take any messing i say, the youngsters where i work go out in a herd of 20 with quite a few dominant horses. They soon realise they arent all that. Good luck!
 
I sympathise with you, sounds exactly like my little NF when he was a colt, i had his knackers cut within a month of getting him.. was exactly the same, luckily he had another colt to play with so the escaping wasnt a issue for me, but the rearing stopped after his balls were chopped.

I would recommend getting it done and putting him in with others and let him grow up.
 
Thinking about this overnight - you need him to be in with a herd that will smack him down a bit. But he needs to be cut first! xx
 
this was me last year, my boy was approaching his 1st b'day and was slowly becoming a idiot.

it ended up with YO ringing me at work 1 day and insisting i had him in 24/7 n sedated until he had snip becos he was scaring other owners (bit ott but covering her own bk so fair enough)

balls came off i got my nice quiet boy back - we still have the "try it on" moments but thats just a baby thing and is easily stamped on.

what everyone says on here is correct electric fencing, get em off, make sure you have hate gloves etc when leading but best thing is to turn them out in a mixed herd with an established pecking order - this very quickly brings them down a peg or 2!!

good luck x
 
Nadgers off asap, another youngster to play with if poss & dominant older auntie/uncle to teach him some manners, then get elecie hoocked onto the mains for a serious belt. Double strand, double fence, whatever it takes so he can't jump it or go through it without getting a good dose of voltage. Don't rug him so he feels it.

My youngster went throught the rearing play phase when she had to be taken out the heard for a few weeks to let her growth plates settle. Soon went back to normal. Get those hormones under control, use a dually (not a chiffney on a very young/soft mouth) & good on you for your protective clothing.

He needs space to play (is only a child) & an older head to learn manners from.

Good luck, please say how you're getting on.
 
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