Bitting advice

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I am looking for some advice on bitting Lexi. Apologies in advance for the long post.

Lex is a very sharp 6 year old TB currently working at BE PN level. She has a very sensitive mouth, tends to react in a very melodramatic fashion if she isn't happy!

She tends to spends a lot of time fussing with her head when she is tense (think she uses it as a bit of a displacement activity), if I am slightly too hard she comes up and back at me. I think she basically lacks confidence going forward into the contact and spends a lot of time looking for a problem or something to object to.

I started her in a loose ring french link - that was OK, but she tended to spend a lot of time fiddling with it. She also has very soft skin which was getting pinched in the loose rings.

I changed her to an ordinary egg-butt snaffle in the hope that she would take hold of it a bit more than the loose ring. The skin problem is fine with the egg-butt rings and she fiddles less than she does with the french link. However she still tends to be very over-sensitive in her mouth and backs off the contact.

I had a chat on Saturday with an ex-international show jumper. He gave me a loose ring ported snaffle to try. He told me that some horses hate it, but others are much happier as it moves the pressure to a different part of the mouth.

Jumped her on Saturday and she went beautifully! Much more confident in her mouth (even to the point when she was taking hold!!! I can definitely live with that). Didn't fiddle and didn't snatch back / up once.

Two problems:
My mum is convinced that anything ported is basically brutal (although I am absolutely sure Lexi would have told me about it if it was worrying her)
Ported snaffles are illegal for dressage (as are the rubber rings I would need to stop it eating her cheeks)

What else could I use to get the same sort of action? Would a straight bar snaffle be more or less the same? Do loose rings make much difference on a snaffle (her skin is much better with the egg-butt)?
 
Are ported snaffles really not allowed at dressage? My YO's mare that I'm riding a bit goes in this http://www.neueschulebits.com/acatalog/Eggbutt_Snaffles.html (scroll down to the last bit). She's done some RC dressage with her and I'm planning on doing some BD with her over the spring/summer. She was advised to try it by her trainer (a listed judge). I'll have to check my rule book tonight before I take her put and am eliminated!!!

Have you tried the neue schule ones with a lozenge? Pulsaar has a kk version with the lzenge and goes ab fab in it - couldn't change it now. He doesn't have much room in his mouth so needs a very thin mouthpiece. He also goes well (jumping) in a ported kimblewick or pelham as they seem to allow more space for his fat tounge!!! Are you looking for something that is also dressage legal for the flat? How 's about a myler?
 
That looks very similar to the bit I have been loaned (except the one I have has loose rings - as I say above - not ideal for Lexi's TB skin!). If it is dressage legal then I might get one of those.

To be honest I haven't really done any experimenting - just the french link and the egg-butt.

I would prefer to keep her to one bit for dressage and jumping - she doesn't get particularly strong when she is jumping and I don't see the point in changing unless I have to. Just another thing to forget to take to an event!!
 
http://www.britishdressage.co.uk/_documents/rules_EquipmentandDress.pdf Go through this and there are diagrams and explanations of what bits are allowed (BE take the BD rules on this one). I can't see that shaped mouthpiece though. Which could be a problem for us too.
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Hope yr well - nearly start of the season!!! Rich is thinkin bout doing Eland Lodge first - if we can get in! How's India doing? Have you brought her down yet?
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But then have you ever had a mouthpiece checked at a BE event?....

Can't wait for the start of the season!! Ballot permitting we will go to Isleham and Oasby. Was going to give Eland Lodge a miss this year and do Goring (nice galloping course - should suit Lexi down to the ground).

India is really well (and very fat!!). She is still up with Mum - coming down on the 7th March (weather permitting). That should give her a good 8 weeks to relax before her big day!
 
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Yep! Have had checks at MK and Chatsworth but only at novice level. Never been checked pn or intro.
 
Sounds like Comet. The eggbut french link was the answer. For Jasper we use a sprenger curved, lozenge eggbut snaffle that has a very kind but firm action.

Don't think ports are legal though.

I have a Myler (dressage legal) you can try, 5.25". It's the basid one with a middle section. BE and BD legal.
 
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Yep! Have had checks at MK and Chatsworth but only at novice level. Never been checked pn or intro.

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Hmmm, perhaps back to the drawing board then - I liked the look of that one (and it is very similar to the one she went well in on saturday).
 
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I have a Myler (dressage legal) you can try, 5.25". It's the basid one with a middle section. BE and BD legal.

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Thanks for the offer - expect we'll see you at Isleham - might take you up on that if I haven't found a solution by then.
 
You say she liked the action of the ported bit as it acted on a different part of her mouth. What about looking at a hanging snaffle (baucher), I think I am right in saying they remove pressure from the tongue, advantage is the baucher is dressage legal and has fixed sides so no pinching of her delicate lips.

Have a look on the Neue Schule web site as the action is explained in detail. Might also be worth giving Heather a call, you dont have to buy anthing but she is very good.
 
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If possible I would prefer to keep her in one bit - it seems most things are legal for jumping, but dressage is by far our biggest problem.

Olney saddlery caralogue has a curvy bit that claims to be dressage legal - http://www.olneysaddlery.co.uk/prodlist.asp?cat=16&scat=225 - the 'Team up' snaffle - big picture not working. Might go and have a look on my way home from work.

Next question - curvey bits - are they fitted the same as normal bits (ie a couple of wrinkles at the corner of the mouth)?
 
Was going to advise to look at the neue schule range as they have a lot of variations on the lozenged snaffle that offer tongue relief and are dr legal
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Could try the lozenge, but the reason I was recommended the ported bit in the first place was because it applies pressure in a totally different way.

She was MUCH better in it than she has been in a french link or a single jointed egg-butt.

I know the lozenge works really well for some horses, but it wouldn't serve the purpose of putting pressure in a different place to the french link.

I like the look of the Neue Schule 'starter' mouthpiece so I have e-mailed them to ask about that one.

Will post when they reply.
 
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