Black stallion - any suggestions

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We are looking for a black stallion for our mare for next year. Ideally needs to be 16hh at least, excellent temperament essential. Our mare is a mw cob, very short coupled but has superb extended paces. Our ideal stallion must have a nice head, not coarse in any way and good length of neck. Breed not important but ideally TB blood would be good for our mare.
 
maggiemoto said:
We are looking for a black stallion for our mare for next year. Ideally needs to be 16hh at least, excellent temperament essential. Our mare is a mw cob, very short coupled but has superb extended paces. Our ideal stallion must have a nice head, not coarse in any way and good length of neck. Breed not important but ideally TB blood would be good for our mare.
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What is your budget, are you looking at natural or AI? Do you have a photo of the mare? Would probably stick with a TB or something with as little a mix as possible.
 
We have 2 black stallions one Dutch and one Trakhaener. Both 16.1. Our dutch stallion throws big foals.
 
The black ones I can think of are Santana at Holdenfold Stud, or SAMgirl's stallion Vinny (AES approved by Gribaldi... beautiful horse) who I would very much like to use myself.
 
Did you want to produce a black foal then?

My mare is in foal to Vinny who is owned by SAMGirl. I think the foal will be bay though - im not quite sure how colourings work though.....

Here he is:

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To get black both mare and stallion have to carry black, and even then you still have a chance of getting a bay foal, and if both carry chestnut then you could end up with chestnut too! Ive seen Woodlander Rockstar, he has a bay muzzle and is actually dark bay not black, lovely stallion though!
 
Firstly, thank you all for your very helpful suggestions. I will post a photo later once I have an offspring at home this evening to do it for me!

Our mare is a blue roan tobiano. She is heterozygous tobiano and black and carries the red factor. As we understand it, if mated to a black stallion we should have a 50 - 50 chance of either black or blue roan.

She is a fantastic mare with an unbelievable temperament. She is not a hairy cob, carrying very little feather. She is a superb hacker, jumps 1 metre with ease and has wonderful paces, a very good walk, ground covering trot and lovely canter. We are schooling now to improve her flatwork and hope to go hunting in the Autumn (if I am allowed to say that without giving offence!). She is very adaptable: when Mum rides (me) she knows that I have reached the stage when I don't want to go careering about so is very careful but adjusts the pace accordingly when my daughter rides. She is forward going without being silly. She is an extremely good doer presumably coming from her breeding which, we suspect is made up of Welsh D, perhaps a little bit of Shire somewhere and something coloured. We want a foal that will be 16hh to accomodate a growing daughter, but with more refinement than its mum, who already has plenty of bone and is short coupled but very free moving. Mum does have a fairly short neck so we would like to find a stallion that can improve that and is not too short coupled. Our thoughts are that a TB or TB breeding could bring the refinement we are looking for but would welcome suggestions. A black stallion of the right type would be our first choice but we would not compromise the colour for quality.

For the purists out there: here is the embarrasing bit. We do not know our mare's actual breeding (sadly) nor is she registered. To us, she is just what we want but we would like to breed a foal from her for us to keep. As regards stud fee, we are looking at no more than £500 which should give us some choice hopefully. Good, trainable temperament is essential.
 
crellow4 said:
Have you considered Amoureux - I think he is homozygous for black.
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Yes i'm pretty sure he is homozygous for dark.

But, did Amoureux not fail his licensing with the Scottish Sports Horse Society?

You would need a homozygous black stallion in order to eliminate the red factor (chestnut). A black coated stallion can carry a hidden chestnut gene (like your mare) as chestnut is recessive. For example i saw someone suggested Wolkenderry, he is a black coated stallion but must carry a chestnut gene as he has had chestnut foals.
 
This is nice
http://www.stallionsonline.co.uk/stallion_30786.html

Or
http://www.stallionsonline.co.uk/stallion_30124.html

Top of your budget but gorgeous Wolkenderry
http://www.stallionsonline.co.uk/stallion_29410.html

Nice but an older advert.
http://www.stallionsonline.co.uk/stallion_16931.html

Homozygous black and pretty Amoureux
http://www.stallionsonline.co.uk/stallion_15994.html

And my favourite, though I am biase in favour of the dutch horses.
http://www.stallionsonline.co.uk/stallion_32775.html

Good luck whatever you choose and look forward to seeing you new addition!

FDC
 
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Am I allowed to put a link?? As my stallion is a homozygous black, long legged, pretty headed, elegant stallion with a wonderful temperament so pretty much ticks all the boxes!!
 
Hemminway is a lovely black stallion. He is not homzygous black but is free from the chestnut gene. KWPN and AES approved. Down side for you maybe is that his stud fee is £600 but plus side is its £250 oct first terms.

Santano Hit is a stunning black homozygous stallion .
 
Hi everyone,

Here's a photo of our mare we wish to put to a Black Stallion:
- She's losing her winter clip in this, hence weird coat!


And yes, she is flying! Haha.
 
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