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My dog is an absolute nightmare in every way shape and form. He's disobedient, aggressive, destructive, brutal to walk and generally a nightmare.... BUT he is the most loyal and dedicated dog I've ever had. One of his less favourable qualities is bin raiding. His usual target is the bathroom waste paper bin. He loves himself some used tissue, ear buds, cotton pads etc. This evening however, I came home from the stables where I had administered a sachet of bute to the feed. I put the empty sachet in my pocket and forgot about it. About ten minutes ago I hear the reprobate that is my world ripping and chewing at something. Upon investigation I discover it's the "empty" bute packet. Now we all know it's not entirely empty but at the same time it's not got anything in it. Should I be worried? Showing no reactions
 
CorvusCorax said:
I'm a big fan of crates for dogs like this, when you can't watch them. Makes life less dangerous for them and less expensive for us.
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CorvusCorax said:
I'm a big fan of crates for dogs like this, when you can't watch them. Makes life less dangerous for them and less expensive for us.
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He did have a crate he had it since we adopted him. However, a few months ago I got home from work. (I work 9am to 3.30pm and hubby is 2pm to 10pm So not left long). Something had obviously caused him some anxiety. He managed to burst out of the crate, but not through the door. He broke through the fencing panel of the crate. He gave himself some injuries several grazes to his back and stomach along with muscle bruising and although no visible damage to his paws he was clearly in pain walking. When we are in the house we didn't crate him anyway
 
Bigmax said:
He did have a crate he had it since we adopted him. However, a few months ago I got home from work. (I work 9am to 3.30pm and hubby is 2pm to 10pm So not left long). Something had obviously caused him some anxiety. He managed to burst out of the crate, but not through the door. He broke through the fencing panel of the crate. He gave himself some injuries several grazes to his back and stomach along with muscle bruising and although no visible damage to his paws he was clearly in pain walking. When we are in the house we didn't crate him anyway
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Also I would never really crate him when we were at home unless we had a contractor visit or similar due to his aggression. Other than that he was free to roam when we were at home. I didn't know he was an Oliver Twist fan and never expected him to develop pick pocket tendancies
 
If you can't physically stop him having free rein of the house to stop from bin and pocket hoking, or watch him 24/7 so you can prevent it, then you will always have this problem, unfortunately. The only other option is to put absolutely anything edible out of his reach, but everyone else in the house has to be on the same page, and give him something alternative to safely chew.

I'd go back to training him that a crate, or behind a gate or pen, is acceptable and not stressful, that could have been done in the last few months after his breakout.

Whereabouts are you?
 
Bigmax said:
My dog is an absolute nightmare in every way shape and form. He's disobedient, aggressive, destructive, brutal to walk and generally a nightmare.... BUT he is the most loyal and dedicated dog I've ever had. One of his less favourable qualities is bin raiding. His usual target is the bathroom waste paper bin. He loves himself some used tissue, ear buds, cotton pads etc. This evening however, I came home from the stables where I had administered a sachet of bute to the feed. I put the empty sachet in my pocket and forgot about it. About ten minutes ago I hear the reprobate that is my world ripping and chewing at something. Upon investigation I discover it's the "empty" bute packet. Now we all know it's not entirely empty but at the same time it's not got anything in it. Should I be worried? Showing no reactions
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A little bit of bute won't harm him. Many years ago I had an elderly Lab bitch with arthritis, vet prescribed daily bute for her, saying that the side-effects wouldn't kick in before the arthritis got her
 
When people complain about chewy, thieving, destructive dogs - I have one too - I remind them who they should be blaming! Themselves because they allowed the dog to practice behaviour they don't want.

I get it, I too often curse because the dog has got in the bin or is charging around going 'chase me, chase me' with something he's pinched and I have to force myself to give a yeah, whatevs attitude (he'll get bored quicker and come away from the stolen item if I don't want it) when internally I want to scream like a banshee and berate him with many, many curses. But as I still have to remind my OH after 25 years together, they are a dog, you are a human and should be cleverer than a dog so if you have left your phone/wallet/shoes/a.n.other where they can reach it, that's on you not them. If you don't put the bin away, or you know, use that big lump of wood that fits in a handy hole in the wall to stop them getting to the bin, well you've got some serious clearing up to do and you best hope that there was nothing in there that is also going to cost you a very large vet bill (these things always happen OOH) best case scenario or even worse, that you have the death of an innocent animal on your conscience. As supposedly more intelligent humans, we should be more proactive. No one would think that we should just tell toddlers that they should know not to play with paracetamol and bleach or even that they just know not to touch them, no we put them securely out of their reach, that's only sensible. Well, even the brightest dog has the same intelligence, reasoning and understanding of consequences as a two year old human in my view. Dogs like yours and mine haven't earned free range privileges in the house because they, for whatever reason cannot be trusted not to be an idiot so when you don't directly have eyes on them, you have to have an area where they cannot steal anything that matters or can hurt them. That's especially important if there is any aggression that needs managing and speaking from experience, I'd advise that that area has a lock, preferably with a key that you can remove and put in your pocket when there are visitors to the house because many people either do not think and/or listen when you tell them not to go into an area....

The poxy dog still manages to pinch things occasionally but because he is limited to certain areas of the house, it's rarely anything dangerous. Because of him, my house appears quite minimalist as long as you don't look above chest height or look under the stairs ;) Stuff that's only being put down for a minute tends to go on the stairs behind the stairgate, defrosting food goes in the microwave or oven, tea towels are on high shelves and anything vaguely interesting but not irresistible lives right at the back of the work top. Coats and shoes are under the stairs always. OH still forgets sometimes and leaves his wallet or phone on the coffee table but luckily android phones are cheap(ish) and banks are very quick at getting you replacement cards these days.
 
I'd fit a lock to any door that you don't want him opening, and invest in a basket muzzle and a much sturdier crate - you don't want him breaking out when there's a workman in or similar..
 
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