Bloody parents!!!

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CorvusCorax

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For the third morning this week I have watched out the window as a very bold eight year old girl wound up my dog.

This girl has been told nicely, three or four times to stay away from 'their' area (it's a big yard) but every morning she starts, taking steps forward, not speaking, poker straight and the closer she gets, the more the dog gets wound up.
She's basically sending the dog a big 'eff you' - in the dog's head.

So today I lost the rag and really rapped the window and wagged my finger at her with a big angry face (dog also recognises a rapped window as a cue to STFU).
The best bit? Her parents were standing watching her. Again.

I'll not lie, I had no fear of dogs at that age and there were two I can remember from my childhood who I was obsessed with, but weren't the friendly sort, one ironically called 'Dangerman' :p but my Mum was always there to swoop me out of the way and/or tan my hide if I got too close for comfort (I thought because my dog was incredibly tolerant, all dogs were :o), this couple were just watching and smiling!!!

If the little girl wanted to meet the dog, why didn't they come and ask to meet him properly?
As at least one forum member can attest, he is great with kids and very gentle, but like many dogs is territorial and while I can go in his run and have a sit down and a chat with him in his kennel (er, there was no alcohol involved, honest :p) I fully respect the right of a dog to have an area where they can have peace and quiet and not be bothered and I understand fully why he would be vocal if people come to close to that area - do some parents not teach their kids ANYTHING about respecting boundaries, human or animal?!

Before anybody suggests I should have had a chat with them, I don't think their English would have accommodated it.

Gah, rant over, all rants on any doggy subject welcome on a Monday morning, I'm off to pluck my eyebrows and channel my irritation through pain :p
 
Arrgh, that kind of stuff irritates me to no end. Fortunately most of the people in my area are fairly dog savvy, but goodness me, that's just trouble waiting to happen. Can you electrify a bit around the dogs so she can't get close enough to wind up the dogs!? LOL
 
Ooh, I have a rant. Came across a lady and her daughter a while back who were looking frantically for their dog which had run off somewhere in the park and had been gone for around half an hour by this point.

I mention that I'd seen a small black dog chasing cars on to the road as they were leaving the bowls green at the entrance of the park - "oh, well why didn't you grab him then?!" - well, it snapped at my dog as it went past, I wasn't gonna put my fingers near it. "Well, it can't be ours then, he wouldn't snap at anybody!".

They must have eventually got him back because three times in the past week we've met the little barsteward again, off-lead and streaking the entire length of the park to come and bark and nip at my dog. Yesterday they actually bothered to try and shout it back - "Jellybean, come heeeeere!". It's a toy poodle, and my dog is now terrified of it. :rolleyes:

Oh, to the bloke who asked why the long lead, and then asked her age - I know exactly what you were thinking, your snidey facial expression gave it away, but if you've never trained a sibe before you have no idea how excellent her recall is for a one year old dog. Smug git with your people-pleasing lab. What do you know, your dog is horrendously fat, that's the only reason it can't run off.

I feel a little better. :o
 
Yeah but they'd manage a bit of english if she put her fingers through the bars and he caught her (not that he would i'm sure). Idiots!

My two are proffesional beer garden dogs now and I meet my friend/fella for drinks at local a couple of times a week. They've always had a good hoon 1st so are happy to just kip on the grass while tied on long lines to my seat.

Have to admit that the majority of parents there are great, always ask or get the kids to ask if it's o.k if they have a cuddle with them. No problem if they don't mind getting pigs ear kisses on the face :D

However, last Thursday evening a large group of people had a very young girl with them - i'm guessing 2ish as a bit wobbly on her legs still and couldn't really talk - she kept coming over and if she wasn't tripping over the leads she was putting her face right up to them. Every now and again one of them would call her name and come and get her but this happened about half a dozen times :mad: they never asked if it was o.k or if they were friendly dogs. Poor boys just wanted to zonk for a bit - and it was interrrupting my drinking! :D
 
blackcob said:
Aha - forget e-collars for dogs, install one on the child. :D
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Sorry, can I quote a very good friend?
"Little Johnny keeps trying to put his hand in the fire. He's going to get hurt. E-collar, Level 8 - Little Johnny is trying to put his hand in the fire - BUUUZZZZ! - oh look, Little Johnny is never going to do that again, he hasn't been hurt, what's the problem?????"

They are super with kids when out and about, I had him at an open day a few weeks ago and people were very polite and loads of people came over for pats etc, but I like to think they are allowed a bit of down time at home!
I admit my OP is confusing, their conversational English was fine, IE they could have asked to meet the dogs, but me going into the ins and outs of territory, behaviour, attitude etc might have thrown them :p

BC I have to say no one has ever asked me about a long line over all the time I have used them, although, I tend to keep away from urban conurbations, there is a high ratio of idiocy there :p plus they usually have their heads on the ground and their tails in the air "They're search and rescue dogs. Honest."
 
That would annoy me to :p My dog hates strangers near here run even strange cats, shes as silent as a lamb with our cat but as soon as a strange one comes in she starts barking :o silly moo. There was this women at our yard and she used to let her 2/3 yr old run around the yard by herself :eek: walking behind horses etc and nearly got trampled once and her parent gave the horses owner a head chewing, yet it was her fault for not looking after her flipping child!!!
 
CC, I avoided the park for a long time - convenient place for numpties to let their dogs off, watch them wreak havoc for five minutes and then take them back home again until next week. :p But now we need the challenge of distractions it's sadly unavoidable.

I just want to wear a big sign over my head saying "If you've never owned one of these, don't comment. Also, if you could just put your dog in a sit about 50ft away so we can practice going past you a bazillion times, that'd be lovely." :o

Bonus rant: OH took her to his mother's house yesterday as he'd promised to do some work on her car. She has a lovely big garden for her to yomp about in and she loves being there, so they stay for a whole afternoon. As soon as she got back home she went to her water bowl and drained it, then continued to drink loads all evening.

"She's drinking loads, your mum didn't give her any food did she?"

"Nah, only a bone."

"What kind of bone?"

"Y'know, one of those vacuum packed ones. The big brown ones."

"A cooked, salty, parma ham bone?"

"Yeh, one of those."

:rolleyes:
 
Blooming parents, don't they understand the danger? And don't they have common courtesy to animals? If an animal is getting stressed its not fair!

Must admit though i read it as "gave the finger" I was like wow, she must have been peeved! :p
 
blackcob said:
I just want to wear a big sign over my head saying "If you've never owned one of these, don't comment. Also, if you could just put your dog in a sit about 50ft away so we can practice going past you a bazillion times, that'd be lovely." :o
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Ah, you so need to come to our class, longlines everywhere, it's like a challenge on the Crystal Maze, and we're all knackered from walking up and down past each other all day.
"Oi, Dave, keep walking!!!"
"But I'm finished now"
"No, you're not, you're my distraction.."
 
I would kill for a class in which I could do that, I really would, but none of the local ones allow for that kind of thing. The only one I've found that does is 40 minutes each way and the costs for a one-on-one session (well, with his GSDs as stooge dogs) is as much as I currently earn in a week. :o Plus he has no sibe experience.

The local ones are all on-lead sit/down/stay stuff, which she can already do, and the only other one vaguely suitable wouldn't shut up about clickers when I rang her. While I admire the principles of clicker training, if she won't come back when I'm waving warm roast chicken, she won't come back for a click and the same. :p
 
Thread derailment - we haz it. :D

I'm off out to climb a hill, anyway, I expect to come back to a lively debate about clicker training and/or suggestions for the untrainable wolfydog. Get to it. ;) :p
 
BC, I know I'm quite a way from you but if you ever want to bring Daxy up and use my lot as stooges you are very welcome. Well probably not Evie as a stooge, she's not quite up to that.
 
What happened to being taught respect for animals as a child? I was always taught to never threaten the dog (and taught the body language which gave this impression) never to poke/prod/approach at speed or with my arms out etc etc it was just always a given! If I wanted to stroke a dog it would be "excuse me but can I stroke your dog?" to find out whether it was going to take a chunk out of me or not!!
On a different (but similiar) topic, has anybody got any stooge dogs near Manchester......?!?! For my little cow of a GSD...
 
Grrr that bugs the hell out of me, how can parents stand there and watch their child annoy the dog, Surely they even seen you bang the window .....even then did that not even register with them :o :o Gah ! I know B wouldn't probably do anything but like you say he is intitled to his space and not being "stared" at by a child who clearly knows no better .

Shall I send Little C up to distract the little girl ? :D He could teach her a thing or too . ;)

Can we aim for a day this week do you think ?

Col x
 
MM, that's a very kind offer, many thanks. :) Probably best not to use Evie, the buggers will only end up in the trough. :p

CC, stick one of these his lordship's run...

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unbelievable - and the worst thing is, HAD your boys snapped - YOU would have been in the wrong with your nasty GSD's attacking poor children..yea Gods, what were the parents thinking?

You really do have my sympathy - my previous staffie was rehomed to me as we had no children - reason, she had been abused by a group of children and was terrified of a certain age group. Yet I had more than one unpleasant time when, despite me repeatedly telling the respective parents that my dog is frightened of children and will, in all likelihood, snap, would find children crawling under chairs etc to get to my poor dog tied up next to me.

Only thing that made the parents take notice is (on all occasions)was me grabbing the child, carrying it back to the parents and telling them that if the child came near us again, I would slap the child. OK, caused an arguement but then they made sure the child left us alone!
 
blackcob said:
"Well, it can't be ours then, he wouldn't snap at anybody!".

They must have eventually got him back because three times in the past week we've met the little barsteward again, off-lead and streaking the entire length of the park to come and bark and nip at my dog. Yesterday they actually bothered to try and shout it back - "Jellybean, come heeeeere!". It's a toy poodle, and my dog is now terrified of it. :rolleyes:
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The amount of times I hear owners saying their dog has never gone for other dogs is obscene. I am sick and ruddy well tired of people who cannot control their dog (as in don't even try, not having a go at the Sibe owner, I know they're difficult!).

One lab owner told me not to come back to the woods because her dog attacked mine! I've been taking them there since they were babies and she's recently appeared. I threatened her with the dog warden last time hers had mine on the ground, screaming. Bloody ridiculous! Stick a muzzle on it and a lead, you stupid cow! I'm starting to dread walks cos mine get attacked so much.:( I know half of the problem is me giving off terrified vibes, but after 2 knee replacements, I can't afford to have the black one jumped on.:mad:
 
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