Bloody Sharers!!!

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My sharer who is a bit of a novice took it upon herself to jump pluto without permission two weeks ago and told me when she'd paid me at the weekend pluto had been really naughty and had stopped when she tried to Jump him, since then I haven't jumped since as his feet where a bit long, he was shod on Friday so I jumped him today, guess what?? He stopped and in the 7 years I have had him he has never ever stopped with me once!! So so angry with my sharer for causing this!
 
Why don't you offer to give her a couple of jumping lessons on him? I take it she is paying you? Yes she should have asked, but it was only once and i'm sure it can be easily remedied with correct schooling. Did you ask her why she didn't ask you first? Have you discussed what she can do with him before?

Maybe you should consider why you are offering your horse for share and what you can do to make things easier if you want to carry on.

Plus it's not 'bloody sharers', it's -your- bloody sharer, and i think if she pays a fair amount of his keep she should be able to jump him. Probably just needs a little guidance.
 
Yes we have a contract drawn up and she knows exactly what she is and isn't allowed to do, and I have said all this to her face as well, she does not contribute financially and is a complete piss taker often not letting me know until late evening that she hasn't bothered to go up and do him, drives me insane,
There is no physical reason he is choosing not to jump, just being a little **** as she has allowed him to get away with it, just as she taught him to knap!
 
If OP explicitly told the sharer not to jump the horse, then she shouldn't have done it. End of. I'm a sharer, definitely not a 'bloody sharer' (we're not all the same you know OP), and I wouldn't dream of doing something the owner had particularly asked me not to do. I might ask why not, I might even give reasons why I should or could, I might even look for a new share horse. I would NOT go ahead and do it anyway, because the horse belongs to the owner and it's her decision.

Moreover, a bad experience (eg being pulled in the mouth by an unbalanced novice) might well cause a horse to refuse a fence the next time he is asked to jump. If the horse has never stopped with OP before then it is unlikely to be her riding that is at fault.

I think OP has got your backs up with her generalization about sharerz, and I'm not too impressed with it either. But the horse is her responsibility and therefore it is up to her what is done with him.

OP, why don't you suggest that your sharer has lessons with your instructor, so that she can gain experience under the supervision of someone experienced who you trust?
 
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Yes we have a contract drawn up and she knows exactly what she is and isn't allowed to do, and I have said all this to her face as well, she does not contribute financially and is a complete piss taker often not letting me know until late evening that she hasn't bothered to go up and do him, drives me insane,
There is no physical reason he is choosing not to jump, just being a little **** as she has allowed him to get away with it, just as she taught him to knap!

Well then maybe you should find another sharer? There's plenty out there and most i have met (there's been about 6 at our yard in a year) have been great. You would easily find someone especially since you are not taking financial contributions. (although maybe asking for a small one would attract the right sort of people rather than freeloaders) Unless you go slagging them off to everyone, then they might not be too keen ;)
 
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My sharer who is a bit of a novice took it upon herself to jump pluto without permission two weeks ago and told me when she'd paid me at the weekend pluto had been really naughty and had stopped when she tried to Jump him, since then I haven't jumped since as his feet where a bit long, he was shod on Friday so I jumped him today, guess what?? He stopped and in the 7 years I have had him he has never ever stopped with me once!! So so angry with my sharer for causing this!


If the sharer doesn't contribute, what did they pay you for? Sorry if I missed something OP, I used to have similar problems years ago when I had a 'helper' with my ponies x
 
You said in your OP that she told you after she paid you - what was she paying you for if she doesn't contribute financially?!
 
I used to share and I would never do anything that a horse's owner asked me not to do - wouldn't dream of it. Plus I always tried to follow instructions to the letter.

Your sharer was wrong to jump your horse when you contracted her not to. But it also sounds like your horse is too much for her. If she has let him get away with napping when he doesn't do it with you then she obviously can't control him.
 
Yes we have a contract drawn up and she knows exactly what she is and isn't allowed to do, and I have said all this to her face as well, she does not contribute financially and is a complete piss taker often not letting me know until late evening that she hasn't bothered to go up and do him, drives me insane,
There is no physical reason he is choosing not to jump, just being a little **** as she has allowed him to get away with it, just as she taught him to knap!

so does it say in the contract no jumping? or has that been missed off the contract?
 
If your sharer - doesnt do the tasks as arranged, "ruins" your horse, lets you down at the last minute and doesnt contribute - then why have you allowed her to continue sharing? Surely the point of a sharer is to contribute either financially or by exercising/doing chores as directed by the owner?

Having said that, by no means are all sharers like that!
 
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OP in your first post you said you hadnt jumped him as his feet were long?? dont you have him regularly shod? mine jump the same newly shod as they do the day before their next set (every 6 weeks!) maybe you are the bl**** Loaner.??????????????
 
Whoa!! IMHO I hope your "bl00dy sharer" finds an owner who is supportive of a novice rider and sharing and that you and your horse find a new "bl00dy sharer" who is prepared to meet to your exacting and precise demands whilst providing free exercise and care to your horse!!!! :rolleyes:
 
Did your pony actually go over any jumps with the sharer, all you have said is that she said he was a nightmare and refused to jump. Ever thought that perhaps his refusal was not her fault??!! Perhaps the same could have happened if you were on his back, even if he had never refused before his is not a machine and horses have bad days, you can't just lump it on the sharer.

Furthermore, if your sharer is a useless pisstaking waste of time, space and oxygen who doesn't contribute, cant ride for toffee, is wrecking your horse and is unreliable. WTF are you on here moaning about her for! If you know all this and still keep her on as a sharer then you have no right to moan and all I can say is more fool you. Stop whinging and do something about it!

Don't instantly blame your sharer because its convenient, and if it really is all your sharers fault and she is as irresponsible, unreliable and incompetent as you make out then you are just as bad for allowing her to continue to share your horse... how responsible do you think that is?
 
Yes we have a contract drawn up and she knows exactly what she is and isn't allowed to do, and I have said all this to her face as well, she does not contribute financially and is a complete piss taker often not letting me know until late evening that she hasn't bothered to go up and do him, drives me insane,
There is no physical reason he is choosing not to jump, just being a little **** as she has allowed him to get away with it, just as she taught him to knap!

Maybe you should get rid of her then if she's that bad.
 
Perhaps one of you would allow her novice sharer to pop your horse over a few poles in your absence and without your knowledge then ?

I certainly wouldn't without it being planned and to be present for the first session to assist and discuss how the rider and horse were working.
Some sharers are a nightmare, and some need so much input that they need intensive mentoring.I've had two very good sharers, the others were at best hardwork, and the two worst ones were stopped from riding as soon as I realised what was happening and had to retrain my horse in the case of one girl.
 
Sorry for confusion she was returning the money I lent her last week for lunch rather than paying for sharing, she has yet again let me down for today and tomorrow although this time has given me notice, u am on the look out for another sharer now and as soon as one is found, (although at this time of year not as easy as in summer) my current sharer will be told she can no longer share Pluto.
 
OP perhaps your horse didn't like being jumped with long hooves, perhaps he found it uncomfortable, therefore perhaps you may wish to look to yourself a bit more before pointing the finger. My mare took to napping with Twizzle after a long time of Twizzle riding her, she tried it with me but thought better :D I never once blamed my sharer, my horse was a moo like that and would test people.

Me thinks that you are one of these people who always look to blame others and not yourself. Would love to know who you would have blamed if you had no sharer and your horse started napping or refusing with you...

*perhaps it is not you, or the sharer or the overgrown hooves, a responsible owner might at this point look to give its horse a bit of an MOT to make sure that it wasn't something physiological that was causing their horse pain before blaming potentially innocent people*
 
As with all things I guess there are good and bad. I shared a horse for many years and had a great experience - and I don't think the owner of the horse had a bad one either. We agreed in advance what I would do work/finance wise and if I wanted to take him to shows etc I always asked first. In fact she almost always came to support us if she could possibly manage it - even up to the national championships at the other end of the country. So, there are good people out there and I appreciate that there are bad ones too, but really if things are that bad it might be time to get rid and find someone else?
 
Queenbee I suggest you take your offensive opinion elsewhere, the ONLY reason he stopped was her awful riding, and I now have the knowledge that another livery saw her trying to jump him and she has said how shockingly badly my sharer was riding, I cannot give her the boot until I find another sharer as I will not have my pony standing in all day on the days I work late! Hence my reason for having a sharer in the first place! If the person is to a standard where they can ride well then they will be allowed. To jump etc, the reason she is not allowed to is because she is not capable.
 
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