Bloomin Townies & The RSPCA!

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Sorry! Bit of a rant! A loooong rant!

I keep 2 horses and 2 native ponies in a 4acre, well fenced field by a main road.

Someone keeps reporting my horses to the RSPCA for various things. So your man comes out, as is his job to check on said horses.

The first time was back in March when someone reported that there were 3 horses stading in a field full of mud, starving with nothing to eat and no form of shetler of any kind. So the inspector came along expecting to find 3 emactiated horses in a half acre field of mud up to their knees. Instead he found 2 well rugged horses, an unrugged shetland, buckets out for food and half a bale of hayledge that they had ad lib access to. Needless to say he found nothing wrong, left me a note and went on his way.

A few weeks ago someone reported the grey horse as being neglected with a broken leg. So again your man came out, looked at said horse, went round the town asking where to find me and rocked up at my place of work! Promptly told me that my horse was incredibly lame and that I couldn't stick it back together with duct tape. I explained that the horse had a hoof abcess and had a poultice on - hence the duct tape round the foot. This didn't placate him. He insisted that the horse was in excrutiating pain and that was clearly evident by the fact that the horse had tried to bite him when he went to look at his leg - my horse doesn't like strangers and has a complete aversion to men so he was kind of asking for it! Once I had told him that and that the problem was being dealt with by both myself and my farrier he seemed ok and off he went.

You guessed it! Back out today! Someone this time had reported that they had run out of hay 2 days ago. So out he comes. And again he rocks up at my work, asks me to leave my job for half an hour to accompany him to my horses so he can show me my lame horse. Nay chance! We were far too busy for me to be off the yard! So then he quizes me about my grey one - which is abcess free now - and was getting quite annoyed that I hadn't got a vet out to the horse but instead a farrier. Vets dig too big a bloomin hole for abcesses, farriers have a nack of making pin pricks to solve the problem. The horse is now sound, where is the issue whether I got a farrier or vet?!? So then he starts on that the other horse was lame - yup, he is a little footsore due to no shoes and the first proper deep freeze of the ground. Both him and the grey get their winter shoes on next week but this didn't please him - it appears that you can magic farriers out of thin air at the drop of a hat! Wow! Didn't know that!!! So he finally leaves and lets me get on with my job and as he leaves he drives past the tractor that had just delivered a bale of hay to the field.

The horses hadn't run out of hay 2 days ago, they finished the last scraps yesterday - not point in putting new stuff ontop of the previous bale that is still perfectly edible. Plus it is a 4acre field with plenty of grass still in it and they get buckets of food daily.

Oh he also wants me to sell some and didn't like my answer of no - I won't sell them as Christmas presents for you guys to pick up from the side of a random road 6weeks down the line.

I feel that both some random and the RSPCA now have it in for. Can you complain to the RSPCA about harrassment?! My horses are fat, well, well fed and are on their winter holidays - oh that also didn't please him! Apparently every horse should be worked everyday and do a job! One is retired due to injury, the other is having a winter break due to their being no showing shows in winter and the other is an ubroken broodmare!

I wouldn't mind so much if they actually set someone who had a clue about horses but this guy doesn't! He doesn't kow what a native is, he doesn't know what lammi is, he can't tell a TB from a shire!

Sorry for the long rant but I feel unjustly picked on and I can't see it ending until I take them all away and put them in a 10*livery yard, wrap them all up in cotton wool and work them all every single day!
 
I would be addressing this by taking some time to observe who it is that is constantly reporting you - thats the root cause of the issue, they might benefit from understanding your approach and why the horses really are 'OK'!

And also put in a complaint if you feel the need about the lack of knowledge of the RSPCA inspector.
 
make sure you have the inspector's name and write and complain tell them you'll be pressing for trespass as the inspector has no legal right to go onto your land and handle your horse.
 
Crikey, sounds like you have upset somebody ?
Do you think it is just somebody who knows nothing that is interferring ?
I had an ancient old mare that looked pretty thin and i had people stop and ask about her. i put a notice on the gate in the end and had no ore problems.
Shocked that they keep rocking up at work, they could cause you serious problems doing that. Is it worth asking a senior inspector to come out and go through what has been happening ?
Hope you get it sorted out
 
How is he getting close enough for your horse to bite him? Because if he's trespassing, i would be making a formal complaint. In fact I'd be tempted to seek legal advice, in any case. I can't remember the address but there is a web-site for just such situations.
As you say, it wouldn't be so bad if someone who actually knows something about horses came out.
 
Many thanks Xmas Furry. I will pursue it!

As to the trespassing - Scotland has no tresspassing laws unfortunately - the right to roam and all that twaddle! At the end of the day he has been warned about the grey and if it bites or kicks him then its his own fault.
 
Take notes of times dates what's said.
Unfortunatly when a member of the public gets it in for you this can be the result .
Contact the RSPCA and tell them they have no right to go onto the field with out your permission and be clear you are not giving them permission to go onto the field.
Do you own the field ? If so fine if not speak to the farmer pronto as that's could be the next move make it unpleasant for you with the landowner.
 
Rspca are hopeless one turned up at a friends and didnt know how to take the horses rug off, I would complain that someone is wasting there time and they should be using there time checking real neglect cases.
 
OMG he seriously said to you 'ypou can't stick your horse together with duct tape' about a poultice? That is actually hilarious. What an idiot.

Agree - have you upset someone? I would write to the RSPCA locally and complain. They shouldn't have someone so clueless coming to horse cases, what a waste of everyone's time!
 
SSPCA is the same as RSCPA, overall governed by the same people but Scotland like to be slightly different in name.

No they aren't EKW, they are a completely seperate charity. It's the SSPCA head office you need to write to.
03000 999 999. Kingseat Road, Halbeath, Dunfermline KY11 8RY
 
Get a letter from your vet and farrier saying that your horses are being looked after. Get the farrier to detail the recent treatment.

Then put a bloody big sign up with copies stuck to it so people can see it.
 
Sorry Moomin, I always thought that the SSPCA was just the Scottisgmh branch of the RSPCA. Thanks for the contact details.

As to putting signs up - I have twice, with my mobile number on should anyone wish to contact me with their concerbs but I have never heard a peep.
 
don't blame you for being pee'd off:mad: I would definitely make a formal complaint and highlight all the inspectors mistakes and your responses to them, useless idiot wanting you to work a retired horse everyday:rolleyes:
 
I have no time for the RSPCA - they are useless when really needed and will target innocent people where there is nothing wrong because they haven't a clue as to what they are on about.

I agree to posting letters from vet and farrier on the gate.

One helpful tip, if you have a lame horse plaster its leg in purple spray - idiots then think it is being treated even if it is on the wrong leg!
 
Eleanor your horses & ponies are always well cared for & you & your family are experienced & know what you are doing. I love seeing them when driving past on the motorway, they always look happy & content, well rugged.
Some folk ....
 
Interesting - as far as I am aware, due to changes in the law, farriers are not allowed to diagnose or treat without a vet - so if this is a "real" RSPCA inspector they should know this, and therefore should have quizzed you further when you said the horse was under the treatment of a farrier. Have you checked their credentials?
 
Just to point out again, it is not the RSPCA it is the SSPCA, so you would be wasting your time writing to the RSPCA OP. The two charities are completely unrelated and separate.
 
Interesting - as far as I am aware, due to changes in the law, farriers are not allowed to diagnose or treat without a vet - so if this is a "real" RSPCA inspector they should know this, and therefore should have quizzed you further when you said the horse was under the treatment of a farrier. Have you checked their credentials?

Good grief! Can you find anything to substantiate that? We're in a sorry state if we've got to the point where a farrier can't work out a horse has an abcess and deal with it.
 
Sadly it's true. Legally farriers can't diagnose lameness. It's totally stupid, as like the OP, I'd much rather call the Farrier than the Vet for an abscess.
 
It has long been the case that only a Vet can legally diagnose, but in the case of farriers and abscesses they turn a blind eye, because farriers know so much more about feet than vets do.


OP I would stick a notice on your gate that your horses are regularly inspected by the SSPCA, and I would write a letter of complaint about the Inspector including the words trespass and harassment and commenting on his lack of knowledge.
 
Interesting - as far as I am aware, due to changes in the law, farriers are not allowed to diagnose or treat without a vet - so if this is a "real" RSPCA inspector they should know this, and therefore should have quizzed you further when you said the horse was under the treatment of a farrier. Have you checked their credentials?




You are kidding . . . right? :eek:
 
You are kidding . . . right? :eek:

Nope - tis true. Also, if an abcess is being dug out, its fine while the foot expresses pus, but if there is any blood involved it becomes an act of surgery, which legally farriers are not allowed to do.

Load of old cobblers IMO, but there we go- thats the law for you!!


El, your horses are always in superb condition and well looked after. How some bloke can turn up at your work (twice!) and think you dont know what you are doing is beyond me, even without seeing them !! Definately think you should report him.
 
Sounds like this SSPCA inspector may require some more training if he doens't know what a poultice is on a horse's foot......in fact he sounds totally untrained for the job he is supposed to be doing. I would be complaining to them for sure.
 
You are kidding . . . right? :eek:
Nope -100% true. Most vets turn a blind eye as farriers probably know far more than they do - but a body like the RSPCA/SSPCA, if they are truely inspecting a horse should be insisting on a vet report for a lame horse - which makes me think that this is not a legitimate inspector
 
SSPCA are a joke. As someone else said- they like to go and make a mountain out of a molehill with innocent people and superficial things, but god help if its something serious, they won't want to touch with a barge pole.
 
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