Bonfire night should be banned

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Seeing Jenhunt's post on halloween set me off.

LETS BAN BONFIRE NIGHT!

Reasons for:

*Thousands of horses, elderly people and other pets are terrified for weeks before it.
*The fall out of firework chemicals are carcogenic
*It is the celebration of the torture of a catholic terrorist. (Wouldn't be allowed if he was muslim)
*The horrendous burns and disfigument inflicted on children on a yearly basis.
*We are not allowed to randomly buy expolsives at any other time of the year, and for good reason!
*Antisocial behaviour is rife.

The list goes on. WHO IS WITH ME ON THIS?
 
I like fireworks, so certainly wouldn't call for it to be banned.

It baffles me that they are sold to the public however. I would like to go to a display and enjoy it rather than having to sit in & mind a doped up dog & the horses (who granted don't bother much but I'm always terrified something hits our stables).

The ban of sale to the public would deal with most of your concerns.
 
But fireworks are pretty!

On a serious note - I don't think you should be able to buy fireworks like you can. I think they should limit the places licenced to sell them and people should have to apply stating where the display will be! Stop silly youths setting them off for no good reason
 
Despite having one dog who is utterly terrified (lucky the other 5 aren't bothered!) I'm not for out right ban of Bonfire night, it's a tradition and I for one think we need to have reasons to celebrate esp now with the boring drudge of trying to keep ourselves financially afloat. BUT I do think they should be limited to public displays and only on the 5th Nov and fireworks not sold to individuals.

Personally I'd love to spend the evening watching the fireworks with a hot drink some yummy food but unfortuantely I spend it inside with the telly on full blast, all the windows closed and my fat little staffie shaking inside the cupboard (only place she feels safe!).

My horse ignores it all...he lives on a country estate with shooting twice a week and 3 miles from an RAF base so I hardly think a few fireworks will upset him. ;)
 
I love bonefire night.

I do agree with Nicoleak0 though, and don't understand why they are sold to the public.

And I too worry about the stables, rather than the horses - who just watch with very little interest.
 
Nope sorry I love bonfire night :D

I do however agree with much of what you say but I don't believe a ban is necessary. Selling fireworks to the general public should be banned and this would stop most of the problems you list. But the council displays at local parks should be allowed to go ahead as they are fantastic and well organised and safe.

I think you get the best of both worlds this way :)
 
While I can see where Murphysgirl is coming from, I'm opposed to banning things outright when what is required is more common sense and discipline from the individuals who abuse their freedom.

Sorry Murphysgirl, rant over...
 
However much I hate fireworks I don't think Bonfire night should be banned. Guy Fawkes is one of the few traditions our country is still allowed to celebrate and it would be a shame if it too fell into the clutches of extreme political correctness.

I do however feel that fireworks should not be able to be purchased by the public, there are many professional displays and there is no need for numptys to have access to explosives and let them off randomly days before/after the actual celebrations :p
 
We live adjacent to a public park, first year the younger pony didn't like fireworks and bombed about a bit, by the 2nd Bonfire Night he was Ok after the first lot. Last night some kids were over in the park and they let off a few (don't think they afforded many as it was all of a 1 minute 'display'), and he didn't blink an eye. The kids did though - I fished out my owl screech whistle after the fireworks had finished!:D
 
*It is the celebration of the torture of a catholic terrorist. (Wouldn't be allowed if he was muslim)
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The last I heard we lived in a non muslim country. However, a country where free speech and demonstration is permitted (thank God).
 
I think they should ban selling fireworks to the public and just monitor the sales of them to organised displays. Around here, people have them going off throughout the year, there was even some last night! I was so relieved I got the horses in a bit early! I get annoyed when no one notifies you either, at least with the public displays you get some notice! I enjoy watching fireworks but haven't been able to go to a display for years as I'm always out babysitting the horses! My dogs on the other hand love watching them, whilst sat out in the garden!
 
Bonfire night and haloween are such happy times for children, I love it. We either go to the village display or have a family bonfire with baked potatoes and toffee apples made by the children and even the little ones get to hold a sparkler.
Daughter just did a wonderful haloween party for the children complete with messy, squidgy games and pumpkins which brought the whole family together. Then we went on a ghost hunt through the woods leading to a ruined priory with the children having their own torches to find their way. We met other 'ghost hunters' who told us scary stories about the ruins. It was brilliant fun.
Why ban celebrations that are a part of children's childhood ? The days are getting colder and darker, anything that brings people together is worth holding on to.
Irresponsible people will always be stupid, just as drunken, materialistic parents spoil Christmas for children.
Winter celebrations fuel children's imaginations and make learning about history, community and being creative, fun.
 
I do love a good bonfire :D

More so I love toffee apples, parkin and toffee that breaks your teeth. Going to a restaurant this year overlooking the park where the big council display is, its great as you have starters, watch fireworks then have mains, get all the benefits of it, without the drawbacks (such as chaves setting off their own, and queueing for portaloos). I love standing outside when its cold drinking mulled wine - yum! (although I realise in the UK I could do this year round :D )
 
I dont think a ban on the whole thing but i do think only official displays should be held rather than anyone going to buy them.
I however this year am not looking forward to this year...where my boy is kept a barn about 600yds away was bought about 4months ago they are going to be holding a big bonfire ad firework display on sat night. Wouldnt be so bad but there is a 30horse livery yard to the left of them a private house with 5 horses to the right and race horses right behind. Its going to be a fun night. Already got my sedation ready!!
 
See, I don't even think I would want a ban on joe public buying them. I smal when I was little we used to have family bonfire fireworks parties, just that in those days it would be one exciting firework (like a screamer) and the rest would be traffic lights and catherine wheels, which aren't really that bad. I think the sheer size of 'over the counter' fireworks is the worrying thing, not the fact that the public can buy them.

Sparklers are ace too! :D
 
I love fireworks :D However - house the up road from the yard had a display last night and it was over the yard :eek: The horses were in apart from two in outdoor pens. My horse and YOs horse who gets stiff in a stable. Mine was walking abt a bit but wasn't stressed but poor YOs horse was a wreck, especially when the casings or whatever they are started falling on to the roof of the pens :eek: :mad: Luckily it was a school night so didnt go on too late and I was able to stay there until he calmed down a bit.
 
team barney said:
However much I hate fireworks I don't think Bonfire night should be banned. Guy Fawkes is one of the few traditions our country is still allowed to celebrate and it would be a shame if it too fell into the clutches of extreme political correctness.

I do however feel that fireworks should not be able to be purchased by the public, there are many professional displays and there is no need for numptys to have access to explosives and let them off randomly days before/after the actual celebrations :p
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I think, possibly for the first time, I agree with Team Barney about something.

Don't like fireworks, I find them boring. Dislike interventionist banning things for no good reason, and do like tradition. I also am more than happy to celebrate the torture of a catholic terrorist - this is a protestant country, after all. (I'd be equally happy to celebrate the torture of a Muslim, Jewish, Sikh, atheist or buddhist (lol) terrorist, for the record).

But I do think there should be more stringent regulation of their sale - I can't think why people set off massive fireworks in their tiny back gardens risking damage to their own property and their neighbours, in addition to the risk of injury.
 
I love fireworks, so don't want to see them banned. I do think the public should be allowed to buy them but only to use on the actual night. Rather then letting them off all week. I think it's a shame that people want it banned for the sake of our Horses and other animals. Live doesn't revolve around them. Especially for non Horsey people.
 
I have signed the petition, I believe that for the sake of safety and the avoidence of antisocial behaviour fireworks should be restricted to licenced displays.

It could actually be a great money spinner for the government, charge a nice annual fee for the licence, insist people have been on a suitable training course and that the site fulfills certain minimum criteria before issuing the licence. Result reduced accidents and anti-social behaviour, displays restricted to certain dates and only in suitable locations, anyone misusing fireworks could be banned from holding a licence again.

I was at a private display once, organised by sensible well educated adults, using over the counter fireworks in a large garden and saw a very near miss. Someone could so easily have suffered a terrible accident.
 
I have signed the petition. Hate the idea that people can just let off large fireworks whenever they like. I go to a public display which is great and raises money for charity.
My old cob used to be terrified, he would collapse on the floor in terror sometimes. I used to go round and put notes through all the neighbours doors asking them to let me know if they were going to let any off so that I could move him. Spent millenium night in the yard with him to try and calm him, poor old boy. He has since died and we have moved so there are no fireworks nearby but none of the current equines seem botthered .
 
I love watching fireworks but I do feel there should be more control over the sale of them. It's amazing when you think about it - serious explosive devices available to all and sundry - and it really winds me up that they are on sale weeks before 5th November. Last Saturday afternoon I was happily poo picking when the local ferals started letting off fireworks in the skate park that abounds one side of my field. Horse not bothered at all, bless her, but I leapt about 3 feet into the air every time one went off. It was a full week before Bonfire Night and it wasn't even dark!

I'd far rather they were only available to organised displays.
 
Fireworks are really, really, horrendously dangerous; people are routinely injured every year and fire departments hate them. Most horses get used to the bangs, poor doggies are more frightened usually. Even sparklers can cause serious burns - I have scars to prove it.
 
As a catholic, although not practising, I love guy Fawkes night, they should only be for public displays though.

And too the comment that it is Protestant country let's not forget that henry the viii only founded the church of England because he wanted his cake and eat it :D. Very enterprising of him lol
 
I dont think they should be banned just not sold to the public and thought about where the event is being hold. I know a few at a livery yard and the farmer that owns it arranges a massive public firework display a few acres away from the fields and yard. Doesnt state that when you take your horse there !!
 
Love the thought of trying to explain bonfire night to someone who has never heard of it before.

"We let of explosives, set massive fires and burn effigies to celebrate the caputure, torture and execution of an activist from a minority religious group"

Er yeah sounds like fun
 
I don't think it should be banned but I think that as others have said, fireworks shouldn't be as easy to get hold of as they are, and only certain places should be able to sell them and there should only be public displays.

I too worry about the horses and the stables and stuff but I don't think that they can really 'ban' something that has been celebrated for years and years just because of the irresponsible people that ruin it/things that happen.
 
I think that fireworks should only be set off at organised displays, and not just sold to anyone.
Horsewise, our horses are terrible with fireworks - it's not the organised displays that cause problems because we can get them in and give them the appropriate calmer in time as we know when they are going to happen, it's everyone in their gardens and fields having their own private displays without any prior warning.
 
murphysgirl said:
Seeing Jenhunt's post on halloween set me off.

LETS BAN BONFIRE NIGHT!

Reasons for:
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murphysgirl said:
*Thousands of horses, elderly people and other pets are terrified for weeks before it.
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I don't think elderly people coun as pets :p but bonfire night itself is not responsable for eejits letting fireworks off for weeks in advance.


murphysgirl said:
*The fall out of firework chemicals are carcogenic
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So is everything except Princess Diana if you read the Daily mail ;)


murphysgirl said:
*It is the celebration of the torture of a catholic terrorist. (Wouldn't be allowed if he was muslim)
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As a catholic, I say..........
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The man was trying to blow up Parliment, he deserved it.
Besides,I have always seen bonfire night as a celebration of the groups failure,not the treatment of them after.


murphysgirl said:
*The horrendous burns and disfigument inflicted on children on a yearly basis.
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If parents were not being morons ;)
It's pretty easy to avoid injury if your children handle things like sparklers properly and under supervision.
The fireworks code is out there and well known.

murphysgirl said:
*We are not allowed to randomly buy expolsives at any other time of the year, and for good reason!
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True, and IMO we should not be able to for bonfire night either- there are very few problems from fireworks displays, but far too many from people in their gardens.

murphysgirl said:
*Antisocial behaviour is rife.
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And that has what to do with bonfire night? Seriously,people who do bad things are going to whatever the night- they just want an excuse.

murphysgirl said:
The list goes on. WHO IS WITH ME ON THIS?
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I would be happy to suport a ban of sales to the public, but not to displays.
As with halloween,it's only once a year and it is fun!
 
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