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bloody hell! I actually shouted when they put the scalpel to the tendon:eek::eek::eek: Thats a fantastic film, I shall sit down and watch the whole lot this evening, thank you.
 
Queenbee said:
bloody hell! I actually shouted when they put the scalpel to the tendon:eek::eek::eek: Thats a fantastic film, I shall sit down and watch the whole lot this evening, thank you.
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Yes that is what happens when your horse strikes from behind while cantering, galloping and jumping. I have seen it happen myself to real horses and carried out this dissection. It isnt worth the risk. I would rather risk a small amount of heat and buy expensive boots than have this happen to my horse.

I was going to do my dissertation on it but I think the results speak for themselves in this case.

Glad you enjoyed, the whole program is my degree in simple terms. Its very interesting :)
 
badgermyers said:
Yes that is what happens when your horse strikes from behind while cantering, galloping and jumping. I have seen it happen myself to real horses and carried out this dissection. It isnt worth the risk. I would rather risk a small amount of heat and buy expensive boots than have this happen to my horse.

I was going to do my dissertation on it but I think the results speak for themselves in this case.

Glad you enjoyed, the whole program is my degree in simple terms. Its very interesting :)
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yeah, Im sold, and for any schooling, jumping, or faster work, I will be wearing boots... well, ben will be wearing boots. He will still have his 'quiet days, of walk and minimal trot for 15-20 min hacks when we will let him work without, but Im not risking THAT happening to my boy :(:eek::eek:
 
Queenbee said:
yeah, Im sold, and for any schooling, jumping, or faster work, I will be wearing boots... well, ben will be wearing boots. He will still have his 'quiet days, of walk and minimal trot for 15-20 min hacks when we will let him work without, but Im not risking THAT happening to my boy :(:eek::eek:
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I think anyone doing more than hacking should consider it. Boots have thousands put into research for a reason, not just to be 'matchy matchy'. I think people who dont wear boots for work are mad, but thats my opinion.

I wish every horse owner could carry out this dissection
 
Yes, I (now) agree, however it needs to be balanced with the fact that whilst out hunting, through potentially muddy, boggy ground the boots will be on for several hours and could lead to rubbing/mud getting stuck/overheating/boots coming off etc. Would need to find a good set of boots that would address most of those issues.
 
badgermyers said:
I posted one above, here it is again http://www.putlocker.com/file/C2706D059E917880#

after doing this very same thing at uni I now make sure I have boots on for work. You only have to apply minimal pressure to achieve the result. There is no doubt a strike at this degree of flexion would cause this damage
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This is a little misleading though as the horse cannot phsically strike into itself when the leg is under full load like this as its hindlegs are out behind it. Other horses can in a race situation, but the horse itself can't. Strike injuries are still very damaging but rarey as catastrophic as this.
See here- http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Muybridge_race_horse_gallop.jpg

Fwiw, I boot up for xc and for jumping courses 1.10 and above in sj but I don't boot for anything else. I have straight moving, level horses who I'd prefer to learn that life is better when you stay that way. Boots can, ime, make a horse forget its own legs at times!
 
Well, once a week we do a slightly longer (35 - 40 mins) hack, which in a week or so will be our canter hack, and once a week we do some schooling and as I said the school is boggy sand, for these sessions, I am in the process of ordering these. I can get them is plain old black, but I thought I may as well go for a splash of matchy matchy :o
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The other 3/4 days we do our short hacks and won't boot, occasionally replacing one of these with a lunge session, if lunging, again I will boot.
 
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TheMule said:
This is a little misleading though as the horse cannot phsically strike into itself when the leg is under full load like this as its hindlegs are out behind it. Other horses can in a race situation, but the horse itself can't. Strike injuries are still very damaging but rarey as catastrophic as this.
See here- http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Muybridge_race_horse_gallop.jpg

Fwiw, I boot up for xc and for jumping courses 1.10 and above in sj but I don't boot for anything else. I have straight moving, level horses who I'd prefer to learn that life is better when you stay that way. Boots can, ime, make a horse forget its own legs at times![/QUI

I have seen horses do this taking off and landing from fences. Mine have done it as I have some boots with some nasty gashes in down the backs! Luckily boots protected the horse but there was some swelling and sign of a strike.

At the end of the day it doesnt happen often is not worth the risk IMO
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http://www.equiport.co.uk/products/detail/veredus_carbon_gel_tendon_boots/412/

I use these for flat and jumping, I dont do xc. I use them hacking too. They dont produce much heat, are lightweight and have good protection.

I have whittiker too but they do insulate the leg alot, so in the process of saving a few pennies to buy somemore veredus boots to fit my 4 year old as he is much bigger than my other mare.
 
Queenbee said:
Well, once a week we do a slightly longer (35 - 40 mins) hack, which in a week or so will be our canter hack, and once a week we do some schooling and as I said the school is boggy sand, for these sessions, I am in the process of ordering these. I can get them is plain old black, but I thought I may as well go for a splash of matchy matchy :o
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SMBs are about as bad as it gets in boot terms- they're heating, Neoprene isn't strong against strikes and they don't offer any support. Much better to buy a boot with a hardened strike pad
 
TheMule said:
This is a little misleading though as the horse cannot phsically strike into itself when the leg is under full load like this as its hindlegs are out behind it. Other horses can in a race situation, but the horse itself can't. Strike injuries are still very damaging but rarey as catastrophic as this.
See here- http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Muybridge_race_horse_gallop.jpg

Fwiw, I boot up for xc and for jumping courses 1.10 and above in sj but I don't boot for anything else. I have straight moving, level horses who I'd prefer to learn that life is better when you stay that way. Boots can, ime, make a horse forget its own legs at times!
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The voice of reason, here.

Fwiw, I have also done that dissection at a vet school as an undergrad, we discussed the merits of booting for protection, vs the the likelihood of a strike of that severity, given the many negative aspects of wearing boots. As a general rule, unless you're jumping over 1m10 ish or doing high level schooling on a horse with massive action, it's completely unnecessary.

But hey ho, each to his own.
 
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