Boots for hind feet

[BBP]

I’ve been using renegades with pads on back feet during turnout on hard standing/arena, as part of my mission to improve digital cushion, heel, posture, relieve pressure on suspensory etc. But they aren’t ideal for turnout due to the cables etc, and now he is being rugged at night I don’t want to risk them catching the rug as he lies down.

They have to take pads. I’m thinking either cavallos or scoot boots. Cavallos seem a bit clunky for such a lightweight skinny legged daisy cutting little horse. And if he knocks them as he moves they might twist.

I’ve used scoots in front with pads for turnout and they work well, but how are they on the hinds. His feet measure 110 x 110 but the hinds are slightly oval with the wider part slightly further back. So I’m not sure if scoots will twist, but they are less bulky than cavallos so I’m hoping might be less likely to catch each other.

 

[jnb]

I'm probably being really thick but does he really need boots for turnout?

 

[BBP]

I'm probably being really thick but does he really need boots for turnout?

Not being thick, he’s just a special case. He has been barefoot his whole life, and I always thought was just fine. But he has never had any heel behind and digital cushion feels weak, now he has chronic PSD behind and it’s thought that low heels are a contributory factor. I’m not prepared to shoe him, but I’ve been trialling using boots with pads 12 to 23 hours a day to see if they provide extra comfort for him to then walk and stand with better posture, develop his own heel and digital cushion better and then see where we are. It’s working really well so far, the heel bulbs have come up off the floor a bit. But the Renegades aren’t ideal when rugged (or for turnout at all really).

The theory is it’s all about repetition. If he does 1000 steps an hour, then without pads that might be 24000 not quite comfortable steps, each of which has an effect on his posture. If he has boots on for turnout, then that’s 23000 better, healthier steps, to encourage a better healthier movement pattern throughout his body. Just my experiment anyway.

They are for when he is on the hard standing/all weather turnout, he doesn’t wear them when out on the grass track.

 

[SEL]

I can only talk front boots but I'm finding that a little twist in the scoots isn't an issue at walk, so shouldn't be a problem on your yard. They take pads well but they are fiddly which has put me off ordering a pair for her hinds - she's a bit quick to cow kick after all the vet work.

 

[Tiddlypom]

I find Cavallo treks good for turnout. She rarely needs hers now, but they were invaluable in the beginning. The vet was impressed, too. She’s not as fine as yours, but she‘s a lightweight sports horse type.

Up to 24/7 if the ground is not muddy.


I’ve tried scoots for turnout on another horse who wears them for hacking, but didn’t like them for that, so I got her some treks as well.

 

[cauda equina]

I've just got some Cavallo Trek Slims for my spindly-legged chap (fronts only) and he's been fine in them
My cob wears Cavallo Simples and Sports and they are much heavier than the Treks

 

[vam]

Mine is currently in cavallo simples behind and scoots in front for turn out. Scoots all round for riding. The cavallos are clunky but i wanted a thicker sole than the scoots behind. They look a bit daft and she looks like she is doing an audition for the ministry of silly walks but they are doing the job. I'm using them as I got caught out by the one extreme to the other ground conditions and she has been foot sore behind without me realising, just booting for one ride was a 100% improvement so she is booted behind until the ground in permanently soft in the field (its been like concrete since April) and out riding. Been bare behind all her life and never had an issue unil this year, I managed her fronts but took her hinds for granted.
Tad big but haven't twisted or rubbed. If cavallos fit maybe the sports might be a bit less chunky. For scoots make sure you really glue the pads in, mine managed one night and then the pad slipped out the front bringing in and she had a gig jog. If you need to pad I would be tempted not to use scoots.

 

[BBP]

Mine is currently in cavallo simples behind and scoots in front for turn out. Scoots all round for riding. The cavallos are clunky but i wanted a thicker sole than the scoots behind. They look a bit daft and she looks like she is doing an audition for the ministry of silly walks but they are doing the job. I'm using them as I got caught out by the one extreme to the other ground conditions and she has been foot sore behind without me realising, just booting for one ride was a 100% improvement so she is booted behind until the ground in permanently soft in the field (its been like concrete since April) and out riding. Been bare behind all her life and never had an issue unil this year, I managed her fronts but took her hinds for granted.
Tad big but haven't twisted or rubbed. If cavallos fit maybe the sports might be a bit less chunky. For scoots make sure you really glue the pads in, mine managed one night and then the pad slipped out the front bringing in and she had a gig jog. If you need to pad I would be tempted not to use scoots.

That’s a good point actually, I had forgotten my sisters horse kept pushing the pads out of the front.

Perhaps cavallos will have to be it. Worth a try anyway.

 

[Tiddlypom]

The treks are lightweight and breathable, and come in colours other than lurid green, though I do like these that I bought second hand .

 

[paddy555]

They have to take pads. I’m thinking either cavallos or scoot boots. Cavallos seem a bit clunky for such a lightweight skinny legged daisy cutting little horse. And if he knocks them as he moves they might twist.

I’ve used scoots in front with pads for turnout and they work well, but how are they on the hinds. His feet measure 110 x 110 but the hinds are slightly oval with the wider part slightly further back. So I’m not sure if scoots will twist, but they are less bulky than cavallos so I’m hoping might be less likely to catch each other.

I cannot see why scoots wouldn't work. You like them, know them and are happy padding them. If they fit they will work fine and, as with all boots, if they don't fit they won't.

I would get 3 or even 4 sizes and send the ones that don't fit back. Go for a mix of ordinary ones and slim ones. It may be case of how far they have to go back to get the back part off the bulbs ie longer boots. If you get some to try for size get the actual boots not the fit kit ones. With the boots you can fasten them and often you get a better idea of what fits if they are fastened. ie they may twist on the fit kit but with the fasteners they don't.

 

[BBP]

The treks are lightweight and breathable, and come in colours other than lurid green, though I do like these that I bought second hand .

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Lime green is BBPs colour! He rocks it.

 

[BBP]

I cannot see why scoots wouldn't work. You like them, know them and are happy padding them. If they fit they will work fine and, as with all boots, if they don't fit they won't.

I would get 3 or even 4 sizes and send the ones that don't fit back. Go for a mix of ordinary ones and slim ones. It may be case of how far they have to go back to get the back part off the bulbs ie longer boots. If you get some to try for size get the actual boots not the fit kit ones. With the boots you can fasten them and often you get a better idea of what fits if they are fastened. ie they may twist on the fit kit but with the fasteners they don't.

True, but someone above did remind me that the pads can exit via the toe, which is quite likely to happen as he smooshes the toe of the pads quite flat at the moment.

 

[GinaGeo]

I've just bought some Equine Fusion Jogging Shoes.

Quite pleased so far. They're not rubbing. Might be a little clunky, but okay for turnout

Edited to add that they take pads well