Box rest and types of sedation

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My mare is on 2 weeks box rest and then review after that as she has laminitis that came on monday. Now she can barely walk however is still stressed out and trying to barge out of the stable. She cant stand being in for long periods of time.

ACP's dont work on her tried that last time with 20 a day made no difference, sedaline a whole tube again nothing and she is only a 14.2 highland pony. The vet suggested trying a liquid cant think of the name however? Any other ideas?
 
I was having a discussion with my farrier the other day about this very subject and he mentioned this new sedation product being used by vets that works really well. Unfortunately hew couldn't remember what it was called but apparently it is placed under the horse's tongue. He'd had to deal with a tricky customer recently that usually needed sedating for shoeing and sedalin usually only ever took the edge off so he tried putting the sedalin under this horse's tongue. Apparently he managed to get all his feet done very easily and it worked so well they got the clippers out and clipped him out too!! I would suggest that you maybe ask your vet about this though before trying it as there maybe good reason why it isn't common practice. x
 
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My beastie is a terrible and dangerous traveller. So when I was moving house, my vet advised a sadline paste which is a lower dosage than a injected sedation! It worked perfectly, its administered the same as a worm dose but takes about half an hour to set in! My boy is also lamintic and it made possible to turn him out without goin crazy and doing concussive damage, so it might be handy when your mare finally gets turn out again!
Hope that helps!
 
What triggered the laminitis and why is box rest recommended? Is there a way that you could achieve the same but have her out with her pals? If it is a grass related lami, then obviously you want to keep her off grass, but could put her in a bare paddock, or even bed down a bit of field?
I'd be quite worried about the effects of stress on her ability to get over the lami.
Jaime Jackson's book 'Founder, its prevention and cure' is a really good read for anyone dealing with laminitis.
My mare had laminitis that was came on as a result of an operation (general anaesthetic), and she got over it very well out in the field - she wore boots with pads in and only moved about as much as she wanted to, but she was with her herd so she was calm.
 
Our mare has just completed 5 months box rest - luckily she is naturally calm but we put her on Magnesium Oxide to keep her calmer. I got it from Natural Horse Supplies on Ebay - a lot cheaper than proprietory brands - £13.50 inc p&p and lasted 4 months for a 17.1hh Dutch warmblood. If you pm me I will send you the link.

We put her out for the first time yesterday - we used Sedalin from the vet - mainly because when trying to hand graze her she totally lost the plot and went ape bolting up the yard, up past the fields and into the stubble field beyond, hurtled back, jumped a very large mounting block and fell over - all with a fractured splint bone on her near hind!!

The Sedalin worked a treat, she meandered out no pulling at all - just nice and calm.
 
Her lami is not caused by grass or stress vet said she thinks concussion based. Vet said no to going out at all as she cant walk far at all. Other issue is she has no respect for any fencing so very hard to keep her in when she can go into small area. Vet has aloud me to turn her into school whilst i muck out thats it. She is not happy on the school service or concrete.

Sedalin doesnt work on her at all tried in the past and has no affect on her, when she has to have a IV sedation it takes 2 lots to actually work. So sedalin is waste of time with her as is acps. Calmers also have tried but dont work well on her.
 
bit larger stable with rail type fencing to enable her to see all around? Ideally with something like sheep/goats in surrounding pens to keep her company?
 
I would try and look at the rationale for box resting her if she is getting very stressed. Weigh up how much the stress and repetative movement might well be having on her whole system as well as her feet against trying to find a way she will be calm and settled with appropriate support for her feet. Sedation is one way but don't forget that you're adding more chemicals to an already stressed body. Another way is turn out in an area with soft appropriate footing with a mate such as a bare paddock or school. Extend her stable with electric fencing so she can walk and see out. Is there a barn or bigger stable she might be more settled in or is big enough to have a companion?
I'm a huge believer that mental state has a huge influence on healing and a stressed body.

Jaime Jacksons book 'Founder, Prevention and Cure' is a great book for a fresh look at managing laminitis.
 
If the triggers are not to do with being outside, why not strap the surface to her feet in the form of boots and soft pads (see the EasyCare website for a range), and then turn her out.
 
soloequestrian said:
If the triggers are not to do with being outside, why not strap the surface to her feet in the form of boots and soft pads (see the EasyCare website for a range), and then turn her out.
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The vet said not to turn her out, have spoken to my normal vet who repeated the same thing do not turn out. I have asked if i can leave her in the school for the daytime as no one around so perfect for her and he said i can do after a review on monday she has to stay in until monday.
 
abigail621 said:
The vet said not to turn her out, have spoken to my normal vet who repeated the same thing do not turn out. I have asked if i can leave her in the school for the daytime as no one around so perfect for her and he said i can do after a review on monday she has to stay in until monday.
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Did you ask them to explain WHY you can't turn her out?
 
If she has to stay in then i'll second zylkene. Haven't used it myself but know people who have and have said it's been very effective. It's a nutraceutical so doesn't have to be prescribed by a vet and is completely natural, so not chemically based like sedatives are. It has a cumulative effect, so takes a few days in the system to build up to full effect but well worth a try if she's in for any length of time. Could the other gel that was mentioned have been Domosedan gel?
 
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