Boy drowns while Police watch

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Here although I saw it on the 1 o'clock BBC news which had a bit more detail, which was mainly the family blaming the PCSOs for the boy drowning.

I just want to know why the mother appeared to have left a 10 year old and and 8 year old swimming unsupervised in a public pond...
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I totallt agree, i've read the story and the police did not watch the boy drown, like the headline says, they were called after the boy and his sister went into the pond. They didn't go in, when they could not see where he had gone......whats wrong with that??

Some people will blame anyone to try and take the blame off of themselves.....after all where were they???
 
My thought exactly. I feel sorry for her but why were they not supervised by parent. I drive a bus for the disabled and see children ,tiny children on the streets at 11 pm when I finish . They are just left to fend for themselves in a lot of areas. When are people going to take on their own responsibilities and stop blaming everyone else
 
i agree, if he had already gone under how would they find him? surely they did best by radioing it in so more could come and help, there would have been no point them jumping in in the wrong place!

sounds a bit like damned if you do and damned if you dont to me!!
 
police are trained to preserve their own safety above anything else, to never put themselves at risk unneccessarily. If the boy had gone under they would only be putting themselves at risk without specialist equipment eg breathing apparatus.
 
I'm pleased to see this discussion is more sensible than the soapbox one where they've all read the headline and made their judgment on the police officers without reading the rest.
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A very sad story but as mentioned on this thread;

a) why were the kids playing near the pond unsupervised at such young ages and
b) the boy was totally submerged by the time the police got there (according to the report I read), therefore no point flinging themselves in when they had no idea where exactly he was and no specialist equiment or knowledge to be able to search for him under water without putting two more lives at risk.
 
Outrageous!!! What the heck was an 8 year old doing in a lake? And if the PCSOs didn't see where he went in, how could they have got him out.
 
It might sound a silly question as i only scanned over the report but it doesn't say that the parents tried to jump in! and if there are already alot of frantic people (ie anglers +kids) then it might have made it worse adding more bodies to aid confusion and there could have been more than one life lost. just my opinion.
 
I got the impression that the parents weren't even there but I may well stand to be corrected. As far as I know, in all the reports they've mentioned anglers and a few other memmbers of the public but no mention of the parents at all.
 
That is stupid i understand they must me grieving(sp) as the loss of a child is the most devistating thing but they cant really blame anyone but themselves in that case and it sounds like people did their best.
 
The very question I asked - where were the parents? Why was an 8 year old swimming in a known dangerous pond? Parents passing the blame again.
 
Exactly , where were the parents? Even if they could have seen where the boy was it's quite feasible they were not strong or confident swimmers. Could have ended up with three dead people.
 
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Yet the anglers, members of the public, appear to have had a go.

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the anglers saw the kids go in so went to help. The police got their after the boy had disappeared
 
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I'm pleased to see this discussion is more sensible than the soapbox one where they've all read the headline and made their judgment on the police officers without reading the rest.
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A very sad story but as mentioned on this thread;

a) why were the kids playing near the pond unsupervised at such young ages and
b) the boy was totally submerged by the time the police got there (according to the report I read), therefore no point flinging themselves in when they had no idea where exactly he was and no specialist equiment or knowledge to be able to search for him under water without putting two more lives at risk.

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And as I said in the Soapbox, I made the post from WATCHING the report on Sky News and was asking other peoples opinions on what they would do in the situation, as it had been implied to have happened on the news report I watched.

I have since read the other reports and altered my own judgement. I wasn't too lazy or too thick to read the article though, I just hadn't seen it beforehand. I made my post based upon the facts that I had to hand. Nowhere did Sky News suggest the lad had vanished out of sight of the officers.

I understand your frustration, but please don't assume I only read what I wanted to read when I made my initial post.
 
I must say this brings to mind a drowning I went to few years back now when several teenage lads went swimming in a local disused quarry which is now a lake/nature reserve.

When we got there the lad was nowhere to be seen but we formed a human chain whilst one officer dived frantically into the murky water again and again. We searched for what must have been an hour while waiting for the underwater search team and they found the boy a few feet from where we'd been looking. He was about 12 feet under and there was no way we'd have found him without the divers.

I just can't believe the PCSO's would have just stood there doing nothing though and TBH don't really believe the story.
 
Rather mis-leading; police were not on scene.
Police Community Support Officers were. They are not police, do not have police powers or training & would have been told in no uncertain terms by their radio controller not to go into the pond / put themselves at risk.
 
If the PCSO's had dived in the situation may have been worse - 3 deaths possibly. I can understand that the parents are grieving and need to blame someone, must be so tough for the PCSO's, imagine how they are feeling.
 
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