Bramham 2016 Thread

The weather is ok again, fine and the sun keeps threatening to come out.

It's gone all posh for the ERM today, with music playing for the dressage. I'm not over enamoured with the ERM, the other riders and sections barely get a mention. ''Twas the same at Chatsworth. I know the live feed etc is great, but I wish they'd just do it all. It changes the feel of the events, they have both felt fragmented when the other sections are the same course and tests with good riders and horses.
 
Honey08 said:
The weather is ok again, fine and the sun keeps threatening to come out.

It's gone all posh for the ERM today, with music playing for the dressage. I'm not over enamoured with the ERM, the other riders and sections barely get a mention. ''Twas the same at Chatsworth. I know the live feed etc is great, but I wish they'd just do it all. It changes the feel of the events, they have both felt fragmented when the other sections are the same course and tests with good riders and horses.
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I know what you are saying but I do think the pro's outweigh the cons.
It makes the sport far more commercial, will bring in Sponsors, boosts prize money but also due to the format it really does give up and coming horses and riders experience in atmosphere and under pressure - this can only be a good thing down the lines
 
I thought they had music at Chatsworth with each rider had chosen their playlist etc?

Know what you mean Honey, I didn't go to Chatsworth and won't be at Bramham but it's certainly made me think about which days I'll go to at Barbury/Gatcombe/Blenheim (have you seen Blenheim's weekend schedule, there's a heck of a lot going on). It's great for the sport but Gatcombe and Barbury already have sections/classes that run in reverse order for xc. I wonder why it can't be incorporated into a normal comp? Or more importantly, why arn't sponsors already involved with these events?

The Gatcombe leg is going to be especially interesting given it's the same weekend as the Rio Eventing...
 
teapot said:
I thought they had music at Chatsworth with each rider had chosen their playlist etc?

Know what you mean Honey, I didn't go to Chatsworth and won't be at Bramham but it's certainly made me think about which days I'll go to at Barbury/Gatcombe/Blenheim (have you seen Blenheim's weekend schedule, there's a heck of a lot going on). It's great for the sport but Gatcombe and Barbury already have sections/classes that run in reverse order for xc. I wonder why it can't be incorporated into a normal comp? Or more importantly, why arn't sponsors already involved with these events?

The Gatcombe leg is going to be especially interesting given it's the same weekend as the Rio Eventing...
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I don't think it'll make too much difference to Blenheim (hopefully!) - the Sunday cross country for the 8&9 year old class always finishes really early anyway, so adding another section after that shouldn't impact things too much. Will probably please the large chunk of spectators who turn up expecting it to run to the same timetable as Sat and aren't pleased when it's practically finished by lunchtime!
 
True true, and it might even thin the crowds a bit on the Saturday (why oh why does the world and his wife stop on the bridge?!) When I had the timetable emailed it just looked a bit crowded.
 
I've managed to watch a bit of the ERM coverage today and have been really impressed - it has improved a lot from Chatsworth already. Knowledgeable commentators, interesting insights and great interviews. I love watching live streams and it is just so much more professional and polished than anywhere else which I suppose is the point!

I can understand that the ERM changes the atmosphere there a bit more but it is great for those of us stuck in the office. I would rather have a seriously good live coverage of just one section than the whole event covered poorly which is what some have offered in the past! Although I am an eventing geek and spent all day yesterday and today refreshing bdwp to see how the other sections are going!
 
They surely can't have chosen their music today. William Fox Pitt got Uptown Girl and the Brazilian rider got Copa Cabana and The Girl from Ipanemia!! Everybody around me cracked up laughing!

I hope it does attract more attention, but to the not very horsey it almost does the opposite. I took my mum and aunt to Chatsworth and they were all "is it worth watching the other bits of all the good ones were in the masters. And here today when I've got chatting to strangers watching the dressage, a lot were planning on watching the ERM Sj rather than the CCI class, which always was 'the big one' here imo. Anyway, we will see, and perhaps Sunday won't be as busy a day for crowds, especially if it rains.
 
Honey08 said:
They surely can't have chosen their music today. William Fox Pitt got Uptown Girl and the Brazilian rider got Copa Cabana and The Girl from Ipanemia!! Everybody around me cracked up laughing!

I hope it does attract more attention, but to the not very horsey it almost does the opposite. I took my mum and aunt to Chatsworth and they were all "is it worth watching the other bits of all the good ones were in the masters. And here today when I've got chatting to strangers watching the dressage, a lot were planning on watching the ERM Sj rather than the CCI class, which always was 'the big one' here imo. Anyway, we will see, and perhaps Sunday won't be as busy a day for crowds, especially if it rains.
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That's a real pity, not only because the CCI3* is the big one, but also the CIC3* is the team trial.

Interesting re music. They were definitely talking about riders' playlists at Chatsworth.
 
What an earth is ERM?!

I went today at 3pm, great use of my ticket given that it's free after 4pm :D and then I left as it stated raining, really hope it stops before tomorrow! Hoping I might make it to fence 10 for around 10 so I'll keep my eye put for a preggers fence judge :p

Anyone else fancy meeting tomorrow?
 
ERM is the Event Rider Masters section running at various 3* events this summer.

It's a bit up in the air for us this year re walking the xc. We have one elderly dog that isn't able to walk so far this time, and another that has a grass allergy and is struggling with it here. If it's not too hot we will leave them in the caravan and walk the CCI with the remaining dog that's not broken in the morning (setting off from the campsite at fence 20, walk up to the last fence then switch to fence 4 and carry on walking from there, so perhaps be at the keyhole for 10.30? Then once we get back to the campsite we will have a coffee and lunch, grab the other duff dogs and slowly go back up to the top field, where you can see quite a lot of fences, for the ERM xc. I could meet up there for a coffee or perhaps find you later?

I should have met you today Stencilface. It's much easier to find people on dressage days!
 
We'll probably be bumbling round the XC course most of the day - definitely paying fence 10 a visit and want to try and watch as much of Blackhorse's round as possible. If anyone fancies forming a H&H cheering squad for her, let me know!
 
I was at Chatsworth where the first ERM was held. I thought having music for the dressage was a great idea, because it drew
people to the arena thinking "what's going on." I hadn't realised that the riders had chosen their music, as I was thinking that it might be something else for them to complain about! I thought some of it wasn't that brilliant, so interesting to hear comments about he Bramham ERM music.

The whole purpose of the ERM is to attract more spectators, it isn't really trying to attract the already converted, although I sort of agree about the point that the other class is for Rio selection, but an eventing enthusiast would know that anyway.

I hope you all have a great time. I have only been once, and that was a long, long time ago when the Novice was being held and it was prior to another Olympics as Princess Anne went round. My dog tried to play with Princess Anne and Mark Philips' dogs when we were walking the course but they turned their well-bred noses up at her! Someone recognised me though - "Oh you are from Malvern, I recognised your dog!"
 
Honey08 said:
I didn't realise we had a rider, could you pm me who they are and I will give them a cheer.
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In case you didn't get a pm, our hho rider is 123 Sporting Uno (or maybe Uno ll) depending on their entry I think, they have a post further down in CR :)

I'll head back on here tomorrow when I'm at fence 10 and see if anyone is around?
 
Looking forward to tomorrow. Our sponsored riders are on at 10.30 and 11.06, so will be excited to see them jump out fence. Come and say hello, silver defender with two Italian Spinones!

Re the ERM. They SJ tomorrow morning in reverse order of dressage scores and the XC after the course change at 2pm again in reverse order. So the CCI Seniors start at 9am the the Under 25s go, then they switch to the shorter course, then the CIC go the the ERM last.

Dress for rain, but it's going to be warm!
 
The ERM SJ starts at 8.30 tomorrow :)

CCI from 9am to 12.12 ish
Unders 25s 12.30 to 1.30 ish
CIC from 2 till 3.30 ish
Then the ERM after that.
 
So SJ on the live feed from 8.30am and XC from after 3.30? Perfect, thanks :) I'll be able to watch some of the SJ & be home in time to watch the ERM XC. Happy days!
 
Woohoo the forecast as has changed and the rain has buggered off! Just cloudy for today until tonight :) Up early today, I'm afraid today is a caffeinated coffee day, sorry baby!
 
It's nice out on course! Top tip for the day - the loos up near the scoreboard/members tent are MUCH nicer than the portaloos!
 
Well it didn't rain and we had a super day, not too hot but good enough to sit on the grass in a t shirt.

I met quite a few HHO ladies around a pile of custard creams at fence 10. It was nice to put some faces to names.

And Blackhor2e, what can I say, wow! Fantastic round, you and your horse certainly didn't look like Bramham first timers. Most impressed! I got some photos of you over a couple of fences, I will add them from my iPad when I get home. Good luck for the SJ tomorrow.

Oh, and the ERM final and presentation was quite fun to watch from the podium area at the end of the course, I have to admit (didn't go to it at Chatsworth as there was more general xc after the ERM). But everyone was watching there, nobody was at the fences.

(And my hero of the day was Bill Lovett, who was half asleep lying in the middle of the big field twenty minutes before his xc, then wandered off to the stables, got on his horse and rode a cracking xc. Wish I could be that calm before I went in a class!)
 
It was a great day. I was fence judging at the investec hollow, which for the majority rode very well, so long as the rider was committed, particularly to the triple brush. The course seemed to cause the right number of problems, and not many falls. Overall I would say it was a very good day for the sport.
 
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