Bransby Home Of Rest For Horses - Flu outbreak

horses13 said:
The thing is they hold funds for the care of these horses. Where is the care in destroying them every time they get ill.
The world would be very unpopulated if we killed every person with flu.


I would like to know why they were not vaccinated and how they got it as it will effect others.[
i very much doubt the horses get put to sleep for the sake of it, its welfare and this means what ever is the best for the individual horse
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As I have already posted previously the desicision to not vaccinate against flu would have been taken with the advice of their vets - they are on site most days.

If the horse flu vaccine is similar to the human vaccine there is no good evidence to show that it works anyway - the flu virus chosen for that year is taken on a 'best guess' basis so it is luck rather than judgement that it works.

As for worming and tetanus - yes they are both done regularly - they also make sure their horses and ponies in their foster scheme are wormed and vaccinated on a regular basis.

Easy to be judgemental and make assumptions when you know nothing about it.
 
At last, someone with some logical thinking instead of criticism! At least they have had the nouse to inform everyone and close to stop further infection. If their animals don't go anywhere then someone must have brought this to them, but they aren't throwing accusations around everywhere are they?

When they had strangles they told everyone too, but there are plenty who don't!
 
Think we should all be supporting Bransby at this time. I wonder if the fact the OP has or is involved with another rescue centre in Lincolnshire has any bearing on this thread ?
 
I was just thinking that MM. OP, you've named the rescue you are affiliated to and some might see it as bad form that you are publicly slagging another. Let's hope your house is in order too.
 
As said before I firmly support the Bransby home of rest, they do a huge amount of good, offer lots of help to others and are always first to help out. Without them alot of horses would not have had the happy ending they deserved.

But to put income into a bigger picture, they have over 1 years running costs in the bank if income seased, compare that to say the rspca (I realise your talking a bigger charity and therefore bigger income/expenditure) but just to equate wealth, the rspca don't even have 1 months runnings costs in the bank if income seased!!! This maybe new as I always believed they had loads in the bank, but not any longer it appears based on the below link?????

http://www.charity-commission.gov.u...steredCharityNumber=219099&SubsidiaryNumber=0
 
competitiondiva said:
As said before I firmly support the Bransby home of rest, they do a huge amount of good, offer lots of help to others and are always first to help out. Without them alot of horses would not have had the happy ending they deserved.

But to put income into a bigger picture, they have over 1 years running costs in the bank if income seased, compare that to say the rspca (I realise your talking a bigger charity and therefore bigger income/expenditure) but just to equate wealth, the rspca don't even have 1 months runnings costs in the bank if income seased!!! This maybe new as I always believed they had loads in the bank, but not any longer it appears based on the below link?????

http://www.charity-commission.gov.u...steredCharityNumber=219099&SubsidiaryNumber=0
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i dont think this is anyone's business but Bransby's to discuss their financial state, do i assume you work in their financial dept? if not, this is not a productive line to be going down!! i personally think it is totally out of order for you to be discussing this and i hope a Bransby employee reads these comments of yours. if i thought someone was discussing our financial matters intothe farm then there would be solicitors involved- sorry.
 
slinkyunicorn said:
If the horse flu vaccine is similar to the human vaccine there is no good evidence to show that it works anyway - the flu virus chosen for that year is taken on a 'best guess' basis so it is luck rather than judgement that it works.


Easy to be judgemental and make assumptions when you know nothing about it.
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Totally agree with this. I'm sure the staff at Bransby and their vets are a lot more knowledgeable about their situation than anyone posting on HHO is. :mad: I'm sure they are doing all they can to get the best outcome from this situation!
 
used appropriatly???? erm... they have vets and blacksmiths; medication and adequate fencing to maintain ; they have feed and dentistry to pay for- amongst other things. As they are a registered charity and are not answerable to the county council it is up to them how they deem to spend their funds.
 
horses13 said:
It was a few years ago now. The authorities wanted to know why it was not being used apropriatly.
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I have only just seen this thread. The Charity Commission will investigate a charity which has substantial reserves which it does not use for its Charitable purpose.

I think Guide Dogs for the Blind was another Charity they were concerned about. The Charity had a great deal of money and continued fund raising, without using some of its cash.
 
rosiefronfelen said:
i dont think this is anyone's business but Bransby's to discuss their financial state, do i assume you work in their financial dept? if not, this is not a productive line to be going down!! i personally think it is totally out of order for you to be discussing this and i hope a Bransby employee reads these comments of yours. if i thought someone was discussing our financial matters intothe farm then there would be solicitors involved- sorry.
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WTF?????

I was just commenting on what someone else said about their finances and was putting it into perspective with another charity, as a charity their finances are available for all to see at the charity commision pages, as posted in a link by another poster (so therefore open for anyone to discuss?) As said I support them, am not being derogatory in anyway and have said that I am sure they are doing the best for each and every horse in their care, so I'm not sure why your attacking me???!!!!!
 
competitiondiva said:
WTF?????

I was just commenting on what someone else said about their finances and was putting it into perspective with another charity, as a charity their finances are available for all to see at the charity commision pages, as posted in a link by another poster (so therefore open for anyone to discuss?) As said I support them, am not being derogatory in anyway and have said that I am sure they are doing the best for each and every horse in their care, so I'm not sure why your attacking me???!!!!!
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it was not my intention to attack you at all, but i dont feel it is very helpful for the charity to be criticised financially when they have a big welfare problem-also listening to others i dont think helps. i know the details are there for all to see, quite rightly so done in the proper manner- my only concern is for the 270 odd animals in their care! so sorry for upsetting you.
 
i have to sayin general now not to offend anyone, that these threads makes this unfortunate affair sound like book fiddling rather than questions raised on flu vaccination!! is this fair, i dont think so, or, waste of finances, is this fair also?? not in my estimation.
 
essexrider said:
........... they are a registered charity and are not answerable to the county council it is up to them how they deem to spend their funds.
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No it isn't ! As a registered charity they (along with any other registered charity) are answerable to the charities commission as to how much money they have & how they spend it. The charities commission do not approved of vast reserves of money, & as a general rule will only allow three months running costs to be held.

(General reply for information. Not entering the specific debate re Bransby)
 
My vet told me that flu vaccinations would not prevent my horse from catching flu - they would simply (hopefully) mean she would get a milder dose and be able to recover quicker. Viruses mutate at an alarming rate (hence we have no vaccination against HIV after 20 odd years of research) and the flu vaccine used is already way out of date when the needle goes in. These ponies could well have something which isn't actually "standard" flu. Herpesvirus would be a good candidate for a start. Many of them will have underlying problems/impaired immune systems due to their past and it could well be that euthanasia is a better option. If the charity hadn't taken them, what else do you think would have happened to them anyway?
 
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