Breakaway tie up rings?

cosmic389 said:
I have an Idolo tie that I used with a 12ft lead rope, on high resistance setting. However my horse knew if he kept pulling (he puts his head down, turns his bum to the rail to do this) he will eventually be free to do whatever, usually to a nearby patch of grass.
Any ideas to teach him and me to use it properly?
I've tried something like an equiping also but he's learnt he could break it if he pulls hard enough 🙄
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Rope halter rather than webbing/leather headcollar? With groundwork first to get him going off pressure?
 
I use heavy duty cable ties. A few liveries have Equipings, which are forever giving way.
Loathe baler twine, and I regularly remove it from my tie rings when people put it up (right next to the cable ties!)

Alf was a terror for panicking if he got his rope caught up, so he had a Goleygo magnetic headcollar and rope
 
I’ve always used thinned out baler twine but have recently got a cob that knows it can be snapped 🙄 after reading this thread I’m now awaiting delivery of Idolos to try! (Got to love HHO) I’ve tried Equipings/bungee types in the past when they first came out and wasn’t impressed - fingers crossed with the Idolo 🤞🏻
 
If people keep tying horses to things which break ‘in emergency’, it’s obvious that any horse could learn to break them, and plenty delight in doing so. Can’t blame them really, lesson well-learned!
continuing with breakable ties just reinforces and encourages the horse to struggle against being tied when he would prefer not to be. A never ending market for new devices, too.

Actually makes more sense tying to ‘unbreakable’ baler twine and having a baler band knife to hand for such emergency, but owner must decide what constitutes an emergency? Is the horse pulling and struggling to break free (not pretty) actually an emergency, or is the yard burning down? if it’s simply that the horse doesn’t like being tied, owner must decide whether the horse should learn to accept this, or whether owner’s happy to always hold him, or always chase / catch him when he happens not to feel like staying put.

Youngsters used to be ‘swung’, tied fairly high and short to something like a winching ring set into the wall, or a telegraph pole, any anchoring point far stronger than any horse, while they were being messed with, other horses tied up around, to get the hang of it - when they try out the extent of their rope, or struggle, it doesn’t give.
Usually accept this very quickly, particularly if yardlife around is carrying on as normal, progressing to being left tied, and the realisation that being tied by the head is being secured. Much easier as a youngster, large foal even, just part of everyday life.
With ignorant adults, owner has to decide what is most important. A proper rope halter (put the knot in!) doesn’t give, there are various unbreakable synthetic ones, likewise long ropes. Horse breakers often provoke the issue, which is even less pretty, if effective.

Horses which have ‘worked a tether’ have the same understanding - they don’t fight once they have learned secured is secured - altho may not be best pleased - most creatures prefer to to wander at will! - the issue is security and safety, but contemporary owners don’t agree on what constitutes safety.
 
ihatework said:
Well I for one am glad we have moved on from tie to unbreakable as youngsters.
I agree it works in most cases, but the damage it can do to a developing spine if they panic is not worth the risk to me.
I’d rather take more precautions and teach them to tie in a safer way.
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That’s great, that’s worked perfectly for you.
 
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