Bridle lame?

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Got a super talented 7yr old mare who is what can on,y be described as bridle lame. Bought as a 3 yr old off the track, re-schooled, lightly and successfully shown as a 4yr old, did BYEH classes etc. Evented lightly again during her 5th and 6th years, as well as again successfully showing and qualifying for Hickstead.

She came out at the beginning of this season after her Winter holidays in March time. She's a bit of a monkey so on morning of her first show trotted for about 2miles down the road to get her back down, took her to show, warmed up sound, went into the ring... Lame. Got 3rd anyhow and qualified for Equifest from a judge who proclaimed her lame??!! Took her out, jogged up, sound, warmed up for next class sound, goes into ring... Lame. Nod of the head, out we go.

Shes been intermittently lame on and off since regardless of where you are and what you are doing with her. She's been on a large quantity of bute over A week long period to try to get her sound (nearly enough to cure a broken leg!) still lame on and off. We've had vet out, nerve blocked, which came back inconclusive as she was lamer after them, sent down to Newmarket for scans, had the whole shebang. She was lunged prior to boxing up to go to Newmarket and was lame, got there and trotted up sound. They just could not make her go lame. Inconclusive results as scans showed nothing.

Since then we have been fiddling about with different things. Stress seems to make her worse but I have literally watched her going from perfectly sound to hopping lame in a strides length. We've changed bits, taken nosebands off, put them on, tried different saddles, had teeth done, back, tried variety of things, jumped her, hacked her, changed feed, tried very loose contact, very tight contact, different saddle pads, consistent routine, irrational routine, smacking her, calming her, riding her through it all and she always, without fail wants to do whatever is asked of her, she's happy. She's a very 'reactive' animal so even a slight pinch we would know!

She lunges sound, pulls out sound, hacks sound and sometimes schools sound but then the nodding starts and she goes lame. Sent a video off to vets in Newmarket showing her going lame. He's told us there is no such thing as bridle lame.

So we are stuck with a inconsistently lame horse who is very talented, willing and able to the job, who after the Scans and x-rays from Newmarket, we are confident that she is not in any pain at all but looks lame and as I said above if she was in any sort of pain with her being so reactive and sensitive we would know about it!

Next step is a small amount of ACP while riding her and see where we are at.

Any suggestions appreciated please :)

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Have you tried anyone else sitting on her, your instructor say !! also leaving him with a very good instructor to re school for a couple of weeks ! My boy is a little boxy when hacking out so I have had his feet x rayed as he had a really bad abcess which was very deep and brused his sole the x ray showed nothing so my vet says its soft tissue damage which will take a long time to mend . When we are hacking home he is fine ie; I think he is pulling my leg !!!!!!!!! but it is a fine line as if there is anything wrong I would be devistated if there was and I am pushing him through this.
 
Ofcourse there is such a thing as bridle lame ! I would agree with Hunteress > get someone else to ride her for you as it may be that she is feeling something about the way you are holding yourself that is affecting her way of going.

I would also suggest that you try her in a couple of different saddles. We have a similar issue with our exracer and we had a saddler come out with 10 different saddles. 8 of them, despite fitting well, provoked a definate change to his way of going purely because the rider sat differently over his back.

Yet the horse also scanned clear at NEH.

Good luck getting to the bottom of it.
 
I know a horse that was lame when ridden, and only when ridden.. he was nerve blocked etc and vets couldnt find anything. The owners were sure it was something to do with his neck, and in the end the vet agreed. The horse had changes to his facet joints. These were injected, and said horse is totally back to normal now..
 
Have you tried anyone else sitting on her, your instructor say !! also leaving him with a very good instructor to re school for a couple of weeks ! My boy is a little boxy when hacking out so I have had his feet x rayed as he had a really bad abcess which was very deep and brused his sole the x ray showed nothing so my vet says its soft tissue damage which will take a long time to mend . When we are hacking home he is fine ie; I think he is pulling my leg !!!!!!!!! but it is a fine line as if there is anything wrong I would be devistated if there was and I am pushing him through this.

Ah, your poor boy, feet are a bloody nightmare to mend as they take so long to grow and more so with soft tissue. Hope he gets better soon. Yep, had different people riding her, makes no difference I'm afraid, that was first thing to try :) we don't have instructors as such, more people to help out when we come across a problem!

Re, sending her to an instructor... We run a yard, breaking in and re-schooling for a living and although I agree a change of scenery may do the trick, I am a self confessed tight-wad and refuse to send her away to somewhere else when it's what we do on a day to day basis. ;)
 
Not much to ad but do love your honest OP :) I used to know a riding school horse who would often be sent out of lessons for being 'lame' by new instructors as he had got his 'limp' down to a fine art - not suggesting yours is faking but just made me remember him standing back in his stall happily eating his haynet whilst all the other ponies worked hard lol
 
Ah, your poor boy, feet are a bloody nightmare to mend as they take so long to grow and more so with soft tissue. Hope he gets better soon. Yep, had different people riding her, makes no difference I'm afraid, that was first thing to try :) we don't have instructors as such, more people to help out when we come across a problem!

Re, sending her to an instructor... We run a yard, breaking in and re-schooling for a living and although I agree a change of scenery may do the trick, I am a self confessed tight-wad and refuse to send her away to somewhere else when it's what we do on a day to day basis. ;)

Awww you obviously know what your doing sometimes we just have 2 put it down to well thats what they are like and get on with it querks and all (sorry about spelling!) Good Luck.
 
We run a yard, breaking in and re-schooling for a living and although I agree a change of scenery may do the trick, I am a self confessed tight-wad and refuse to send her away to somewhere else when it's what we do on a day to day basis.

Odd attitude.
 
I guess you have had her hoof levels checked.The feet are often low on the outsides.Pick her hind foot up and look down the cannon bone and check the profile of her hoof. Pick up her foreleg,holding it around the cannon bone,often they will have a high put towards the inside.Make sure she is shod back to the widest point of the frog.
This could create the lameness you talk about as the horse constantly compensates.
 
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