Broncing...Am I being Paranoid?

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So a very long winded post...

I've had my new boy since last July, my horse of a lifetime. 17.2 strapping gelding from Ireland ready to bring on and have lots of fun with. I've posted a couple of times about feeding issues etc linking to behavioral issues and my horse going from incredibly laid back, fed on competition mix etc as he was so laidback, an absolute dream in the stable and under saddle. He regularly has physio, teeth and feet done, and saddle is made to measure with regular check ups. I now only feed fibre cubes, a prebiotic supplement and a mineral supplement. He looks in good condition, has never been lame and is very friendly in the stable.

We clipped him in October and the first time I got on he bronced and had me off twice, obviously I put this down to the sensitivity and shock of having no coat. I am a confident rider so this came as a bit of a shock and actually shook me up abit, but we carried on as normal.

He had been fine ever since and back to his usual submissive self, developing well in his lateral work.

Then things started to change, he ingested something either out in the field and in his haylage and got a skin infection and was covered in lumps all over his body, which was eventually treated with steroids, and two weeks on box rest to ensure his diet was consistent. Before this happened he started to get very sensitive when tacking up, particularly when girthing and when he saw the saddle. As usual though he would stand, let me get on, and that was that. Then he started to get very tense when I was riding him, your usual big fit horse acting like a coiled spring and loosening off throughout the session.

After Christmas, he seems to have developed into a complete lunatic. I can no mount without somebody holding him otherwise he broncs around the school. My instructor and the vet said he was probabl just going through a 'naughty teenager' phase almost, and was trying it on as he is a big strong horse that knows how much power he has.

Now, last weekend, I took him for his first proper hack since around last October as we had moved yards etc for one reason or another. I get that horses are giddy but last year he would plod round on the buckle, and work as asked when needed, go for a good canter and pull up and back on to the buckle kind of horse. This weekend, having pretty much jogged all the way around the ride I asked him to walk down a small grass slope on the moors, and after a few minutes of a slight disagreement, he had had enough, spun and bolted across the moor with me putting in some huge broncs along the way. Luckily after letting him go I managed to pull him up, and had to jump straight off. I walked him home, and put this down to being fresh for his first outing. Yesterday I rode him in the school and he was a total nightmare. He was incredibly forward and unsettled, very tense throughout and for the first time, when asked for canter transition he went absolutely ballistic. I walked him off for a while and dismounted. He has also become incredibly difficult to lunge and will put up a serious fight when I try to work him on the right rein.

Now I know this sounds like whenever something bad happens I dismount, but more often than not I have kicked on, ridden through it and finished the session on a good note. It has got to the point where I cant even get on this horse unaided without the threat of being dumped in the first five seconds, and I don't want to do any damage to him, or me.

I'm absolutely at my wits end - the horse I always dreamed of having has become my worst nightmare and after having lost my last mare to kissing spines I am praying that this issue can be solved.

Has anybody got any advice or had a similar experience?
 
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It sounds far more than a horse going through a naughty stage I would either get the vet back for a more thorough check or ask to be referred elsewhere if your vet does not take this seriously.

The behaviour sounds pain related, ulcers would be the most obvious, sensitivity on the right side ties in to this but it could be so many other things, I don't think I would be happy riding a horse that I could not mount unaided for months it is an accident waiting to happen and it sounds as if you have got off relatively lightly so far.

Not sure what is meant by your title, a change of noseband is unlikely to have much impact on his behaviour, I see you have amended it now.
 
Forgot to add - Vet is coming out on Weds next week. Horse also turned out from 6.30am until 6pm. There is enough grass for the hroses to forage but they have to look for it, so no rich spring grass.
 
Definitely sounds pain/sensitivity related. My mare has extremely sensitive skin. To the point where her own sweat can make her come out in hives. Since clipping this year, she has been a lot more sensitive, no hives, but very ticklish. Brushing in certain areas and tacking up can be difficult, lots of fidgeting and teeth bearing. She has been checked for other issues and is fine. Yours does sound like it could be ulcers though. My mare is totally predictable as to how she reacts and where you touch her. Yours sounds like he is more unpredictable and is worried about being ridden, hence the not standing to be mounted. Try feeding a little chaff before riding to try to settle his stomach and bind up some of the acid that could be in his stomach? I would get him thoroughly checked again, just to be sure.
 
Update...
I insisted after calling the vet out 4 times since December that we had my horse scoped last week, only to find grade 4 gastric ulcers.

I kind of expected this and Im frustrated that it has gone on for so long unresolved, but it is what it is.
The vets have prescribed UlcerGold for a month then a rescope - I am switching gradually onto TopSpec (Ulcerkind?)and he is still on his prebiotic supplement.

I havent had any personal experience of anhh of my horses having stomach ulcers before so does anybody have any tips? Current routine... Ulcergold at 6.45 am, do jobs. Horse gets fed at 7.45am. Turned out all day and back in at 6pm. Another TopSpec feed and ad-lib haylage all night (horse wont eat hay!).

Is there anything else I can be doing to make life easier for my horse? I hope we can get the horse I bought back.
 
Wondered if when you changed the feed and just switched to the fibre cubes as you mentioned in your initial post there was a problem from that, not the grass in the field having had a similar experience myself. I changed feed company and my horse came up in hives etc, it was terrible. A number of other horses on the yard had sore bellies consistent with ulcers having been on the same feed for some time and I ended up giving my horse a course of the protexein to repopulate the good bacteria in the hind gut which really helped him having chatted to my vet.

After that happened to my horse, I changed back to my old feed and then swapped to Agrobs and the problem settled down, he has a fabulous temperament but really became a bit grumpy & very depressed. Some of the other liveries swapped their feeds too and were surprised to find their fairly stroppy horses really settled down and calmed down. Just reading your post mirrored the behaviour of a couple of the other horses I was stabled with.

Hope your boy settles down, might be worth considering the hind gut too if you are going to treat for ulcers as that can be an issue too.
 
Wow, that's amazing - sorry no helpful advice but just wanted to say well done you for persevering and insisting with the vet, it sounds like it's been a scary few months and many horses wouldn't have been so lucky!!
 
The question you must ask is why has the horse got the ulcers it's my experience that ulcers are usually the Canary telling you something else is wrong.
 
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