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ApacheWarrior1

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What can be done if my new horse has started to Bronc occasionally ? He is 6 years old bought from a dealer four months ago... He hospitalised me with concussion when I came off in the first month - since them he has had another rider off three times . Suggestions please
 
Sukistokes2 said:
Have you spoken to the Dealer!? Also what Dibbin says , have you had the checks done?
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Yes all checks done - back teeth etc and all fine - I managed to track down the breeder and she said there was an "issue " when breaking him so he was left in a field until he was 6 then sold to dealer who i then got him off... Dealer doesn't want to know - what a surprise ! Can he be cured of this or is it a habit ?
 
My new horse Broncs and he's a 17 hands. One minute schooling fine. Then explodes and Broncs. My instructor yells at me to work him on and even harder. Once the ten minutes are over, then we have some fab dresssge work. He's a youngster too. He is a worrier and very responsive. Too much leg for instance will cause an explosion. A car driving past the schooling ring will have him go from walk to gallop and bronc all the way down the school. My instructor says get his shoulders up and push foward. Not easy when I'm trying to stay on. I've only had him a few months so hoping he'll settle. But it's scary when you know they are going to explode at any moment.
 
Yeah I feel my boy is unsafe / he manages to unseat an ex jockey with ease. He too is a worrier but now i don't dare get on him and nor do others that know him - obviously can't sell him - huge problem as I don't have a pot of money for this due to losing my job recently ...
 
ApacheWarrior1 said:
Yes all done and no issues
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Mine was all checked as well and I thought he was just a git! Back had been done twice, saddle done by 2 different people and teeth done. Turns out the saddle did NOT fit at all and had mullered his shoulders :(

He is an absolute superstar now his saddle fits and his physical problems have been sorted. But I knew his history from birth, in your shoes I'd get the saddle checked again then get a vet in for investigations. Horses can just be sharp, but given the background there may well be an underlying problem, and I'd want to know 100% there wasnt before I did anything else. If there isnt, then I'd be getting a pro to ride and give me an opinion on what I was dealing with
 
Like above if you've had all the checks done then I would really try and work on pushing thru it I had a serial broncer and did it when he was asked to work properly he would quite happy work on a loose rein all day long but as soon as you asked anything of him he would Buck, cow kick, anything to get out of having to work, so had all the checks done just in case and like I thought he was fine.

So started being a bit harder on him and when he started his nonsense I would keep kicking forward and would give him a slap with the stick if it was needed, he would try even harder and as long as I could stay on and push thru the bad behaviour he soon learned that it was far easier getting on with what he was told! He turned into a lovely well behaved boy amd went onto be a very consistent eventer :D

I really hope you work things out with your pony and you find something that works for you!
 
Thank you - unfortunately even my best jockeys can't stay on more than five seconds - they are pretty sure its a learned habit as he goes vertical with a this for good measure !!
 
Do the checks envolve back xray for KS and scoping for ulcers?

My wb mare was brought as a project to.back and bring on, she started rearing and broncing my sister off. Found out from breeder she was difficult to back so sent on to another to.back and sell.
I was her third home.

I had my vet look at her, he xrayed her back and found four processes fully fused and another four on their way.to being fully fused. He said.from.how white the.bone is it had been.there a long time so explains why she was difficult to back.
 
Is he actually 7 as the dates don't add up otherwise, how long did the dealer have him?

I would guess he was broken quickly, doped or whatever worked best to get him going well enough to sell, he has a history of something happening during the early breaking which resulted in him being left for 2? years, he was then passed on rather than being restarted or investigated, poor horse has not been given a chance by his breeder, the dealer will have rushed him probably done very little and now he has started being difficult again, this does not sound like learned habit but either a very badly started horse who has never had the work put in, he may be sharp anyway but with that history it is not surprising OR there is an underlying issue, KS or ulcers cannot be found or diagnosed without xrays/ scoping, I would give him the benefit of the doubt and get a vet in to properly rule out pain and treat anything that showed up before restarting him from scratch, possibly sending him to a pro yard or pts if I was not prepared to invest in him.

Horses rarely behave that badly for no reason , if he is otherwise nice give him a chance.
 
Oh that's not great I don't mind bucking and broncing but I am really not a fan of rearers! Sounds like a pretty determined boy!

You have to keep safe if there's nothing physically wrong then you don't want to keep putting yourself or others in danger? You could try turning him away for a while maybe he's been sickened by previous owners or his behaviour is what got him to a dealer in the first place? It's a difficult one!
 
I feel so sorry for the horse who has been passed around by everyone :( but sorry for you too. If you do not want to keep the horse you need to be aware of the time limit for returning him to the dealer as unsuitable. I think it is six months from purchase. You say the dealer does not want to know but legally they have no choice. Could your horse have had some long acting medication which has now worn off?
 
I feel really sorry for you both too. I would not have the skill or courage to try to ride a broncer through the behaviour. If/when pain issues have been ruled out, do you see a future for you both or have you completely lost your trust in him? If you send him away to a professional for retraining it will be costly, and if you try to work with him yourself with an instructor, will he puck up on your nerves?
 
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